Inwards-looking revolutionary France

WI for some reason (if you find a good PoD, I'd be interested to hear about it), revolutionary France (and the Empire, if it exists, and all successor régimes) never set out to conquer and/or reform Europe, and left the Ancien Régime undisturbed. How would the XIXth century unfold in such a TL?
Especially: would there be a mediatisation in the HRE, and if yes, when and how? How does this affect the industrial revolution? What would be the fate of the Austrian Netherlands (I really can't see that one lasting, but who knows)? Do Germany and Italy still unify?
 
Well, the Girondins are going to have to be much weaker, for starters. That and the other nations of Europe are going to have not be upset at their newly founded republic. Perhaps the King of France isn't killed and is allowed to be a figurehead? Granted, he wanted to a war to make people forget their problems at home...

If Revolutionary France in much of any form were to still exist, the French would get in some wars eventually, they were a behemoth at the time you know. :)

(Potentially in support of nationalists?)
 

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You need to remove Marie Antoinette from the picture really, that was the main connection that brought the Austrians to war. Like, she dies of natural causes just prior to the Revolution or something.
 
Okay, here's a little scenario: The Nootka crisis happens 5 years earlier and escalates into a war. Louis XVI honours the Bourbon family compact and enters the war on the Spanish side. He gets deposed more or less in (OTL's) time by anti-war revolutionaries. The subsequently-formed republic of France is a strongly isolationist state. The royal family are not harmed, but are offered the choice between exile and indefinite house-arrest in Versailles.

So,
How would the XIXth century unfold in such a TL?
Especially: would there be a mediatisation in the HRE, and if yes, when and how? How does this affect the industrial revolution? What would be the fate of the Austrian Netherlands (I really can't see that one lasting, but who knows)? Do Germany and Italy still unify?
I wish I could contribute in a more meaningful way myself, but I really don't know enough about this period (yet). I await your ideas eagerly:)
 
The biggest problem for revolutionnary France is that it will be attacked by it's neighbour (you know, being republican and such things), or will atack somebody if the king is still here. The only one who wanted to keep France outside everywar where the Jacobins, and they would attract shit like nobody.

And the biggest problem is : everyone in France (except maybe the Jacobins, but it was maybe because they wanted to solve the problem at hom first) at the time wanted to conquer the western bank of the Rhine...
 
The biggest problem for revolutionnary France is that it will be attacked by it's neighbour (you know, being republican and such things), or will atack somebody if the king is still here. The only one who wanted to keep France outside everywar where the Jacobins, and they would attract shit like nobody.

And the biggest problem is : everyone in France (except maybe the Jacobins, but it was maybe because they wanted to solve the problem at hom first) at the time wanted to conquer the western bank of the Rhine...

And as per the scenario set forth on post #4? I guess the political factions would be radically different...
 
And as per the scenario set forth on post #4? I guess the political factions would be radically different...

The biggest problem if you want the king around is for him not to act like a dick. The republicans only managed to destroy his image after the flight of Varrennes. And he still had power at that moment. In your scenario he wouldn't have any.

And the opinion of era were (in France) that France natural frontier was the Rhine, the Alps and the Pyrénées.

I think the best option is the following : France accept England peace proposal in 1797. Then kill Napoléon, create a big defeat for the remaining enemies of France. After this defeat they try to make peace with France : France accept due to internal strife (insert a Jacobins/federalist/royalist/other revolutionnaries revolt) which create a state (through quasi-civil war or parliementary inertia) where France can't declare war on anybody. An isolationist state of affaire would probably appear. Nobody want to decalre war on France because they fear of awakening the giant. Italy would probably stay in France sphere of influence for a while in this scenario.

It is more or less what i intend to do in a timeline of mine, but my PoD is in the seven years war, and France would not be isolationnist but will focus on the rest of the world after settling on the Rhine western bank.
 
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