Intermarrium, AH Polish Timeline

[Adamgerd]

The Founding of a State (1919-1922)

Chief of State Józef Pilsudiski wanted "Intermarrium". The National Democrat movement had a massive scandal earlier and so the Sanation Movement had large gains and the Polish Delegation was composed of Loyalists to Pilsudiski and Supporters of the Intermarrium idea instead of the National Democrat movement. They negotiated and eventually accepted the Peace of Minsk, which enforced the Intermarrium idea, with the Soviets having to sign a peace after long filibustering, due to their military defeat, when the Polish government made it clear that they would honor their treaty with the Ukrainian allies and continue the fight if Soviets delayed longer and so the peace was signed. The western powers initially boycotted the treaty but eventually with Russian accedence agreed. The treaty was for both Ukraine and Belarus to become independent and for the Russian SFSR to abandon all claims on former Russian lands. Ukraine and Belarus decided to join the Commonwealth Confederation with Józef Pilsudiski drafting the Treaty of the Creation of the Commonwealth, where the 3 states: Second Polish Republic, Ukrainian People's Republic, and the Belarusian People's Republic, all agreed to unite into one confederation with domestic autonomy for all 3 and the resulting state was now known as the "Commonwealth Confederation".

Concurrently Wilno, captured by Polish forces in the Polish-Soviet war was given to Lithuania after the proclamation to Lithuanians in return for the democratic elections of Lithuania and it's ascendance into the Commonwealth Confederation, pledging the giving of autonomy to Lithuania and the protection of ethnic Lithuanian culture. With the peace of Minsk, the Lithuanian government saw little hope to oppose and after furious debating, acceded becoming part of the Commonwealth confederation, being granted Vilnius back and having domestic autonomy, becoming part of the "Commonwealth Confederation" as the 4th member state

However although victorious, the Commonwealth Confederation was war-torn after both WW1 and the Polish-Soviet war. So, unexpectedly the Commonwealth Confederation signed a treaty of friendship with Czechoslovakia, in 1921 which settled the dispute in Czechoslovak favor in return for beneficial trade deals with the United Commonwealth. As well as this the Commonwealth Confederation signed a treaty of friendship with Latvia and Estonia agreeing for mutual trade and a defensive guarantee against the RSFSR as well.

A last minute change in the Upper Silesia plebiscite in 1921 led to the voting age being reduced to 18, greatly benefitting the Polish younger votes (Accusations of Commonwealth's bribes and funding of protests are unproven). As well as this, the upsurge of Polish economy and power convinced more undecided Silesians voting to join the Commonwealth Confederation, especially after ran agreement that they'd join as the Silesia Federative Republic, a 5th constituent state, so much so that most of Upper Silesia went to Poland.

Outcome of Upper Silesian Plebiscite

Meanwhile the RSFSR, humiliated in the Polish-Soviet War was seen as a coward by many ethnic Russians with the Red victory becoming less certain as Russian nationalists defected to the White forces, bolstering them around Vladivostok and delaying the plan to invade Mongolia for now, with the Japans then deciding to stay and not withdraw from Russian soil and continue to support the Provisional Priamurye Government and the famine caused by the Polish-Soviet war leads to the New Economic Policy to be delayed indefinitely in implementation, keeping the red army supplied with food from Russia, having lost the grassland, but further angering the peasants. Although the RSFSR was still winning for now, it lengthened the civil war and weakened the RSFSR, though the Treaty of Rapallo (1922) was still signed, mainly focused on the threat of the rising Commonwealth Confederation.

In response to the treaty of Rapallo, both Latvia and Estonia with the Commonwealth Confederation signed the treaty of Intermarrium in 1922, agreeing to found an alliance together to combat both German and Russian revanchism, with the Commonwealth Confederation invited both Romania and Czechoslovakia as well, though Czechoslovakia declined for now, while Romania after considerable debate decided to join the Intermarrium alliance.

A constitution for (only) the polish state is also presented by Józef Pilsudiski. The act introduced the idea that the state is the common good of the citizens and limits the Senat's and Sejm's power while strengthening the President of Poland to provide for a strong leader, with the president responsible for choosing the members of the government, which is responsible to the parliament and is the Commander-in-chief of the Polish Army and has a right to issue decrees and veto the Sejm's acts and the president has the right to name his successor in case of war if a 2/3rd majority of the people or the Sejm does not disagree with the choice. It is controversial with some authoritarian features, but Political Analysts expect it to probably be passed due to large supports especially from the border lands of him.

The Commonwealth Confederation has decided to give 1/4 of it's seats to each of the 4 nations to elect to and thus create a parliament of the 4 constituent countries with it representing them in foreign affairs, while they represent themselves in domestic affairs.

The RSRF stops supporting Turkey after their defeat, resulting in Greece taking Haymana, but at a great cost, resulting in a decisive Victory of the battle of Sakarya. The French decided to after this defeat, not agree to negotiate with Turkey and pressed the war. Turkey was fighting on both fronts and with Greeks taking the last obstacle to Ankara and the French being demoralized, their defeat became more and more certain.

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IRL notes
1. IRL, there was a proclamation to the inhabitants of the former duchy of Lithuania, and partly failed due to the dispute over Wilno and the USSR did offer more land than the National Democrat Movement wanted

 

[sans1shashlik]

I like the idea of timeline and how it's written but:
1. you wrote "Sanction" instead of "Sanation"
2. Contradictory to what's being said, Piłsudski's idea of federation wasn't to create a one state, but rather alliance/loose confederation, especially that Ukrainians and Lithuanians didn't like the idea of union with Poland and restoring the old Commonwealth (in which they believed Poles oppressed them). So the "United Commonwealth" you presented isn't going to be so stable and it will probrably fall at first major crisis or when Piłsudski which i believe holds everything togeter dies.

 

[Augenis]

Concurrently the Polish Coup d'etat in Lithuania in 1919 succeeded with a pro-Polish government being installed

The 1919 coup attempt by the POW organization had zero chance of succeeding. The Poles were operating on false information about how popular Lithuania's government was and how much the Lithuanians wanted to be Poland's bitch. No Lithuanian military commanders supported the coup and the only strata of the Lithuanian population which could have backed it was the Polish-speaking aristocracy, which had little to no say in the government and was fleeing Lithuania in mass anyway.

Even if POW wasn't snuffed out before it could amount to anything, the coup would, at best, resemble the 1934 fascist coup attempt in Lithuania - the conspirators occupy a few buildings, put their demands, the government says no and loyal military units take care of the mess.

There are ways how to have Lithuania be attached to Poland with a 1919-21 POD, but this isn't one of them.

 

[Adamgerd]

I like the idea of timeline and how it's written but:
1. you wrote "Sanction" instead of "Sanation"

Will correct that

2. Contradictory to what's being said, Piłsudski's idea of federation wasn't to create a one state, but rather alliance/loose confederation, especially that Ukrainians and Lithuanians didn't like the idea of union with Poland and restoring the old Commonwealth (in which they believed Poles oppressed them). So the "United Commonwealth" you presented isn't going to be so stable and it will probrably fall at first major crisis or when Piłsudski which i believe holds everything togeter dies.

Well the United Commonwealth is supposed to more so be a confederation of states which have an united army but have their own legal system and executive system. I took the system from the USSR, but tried to make it less centralized. But if it is still to centralized, I'll change it to be more decentralized. And in part, it's supposed to be stable because of Piłsudski. It'd be a pretty boring AH if Poland was good at everything

The 1919 coup attempt by the POW organization had zero chance of succeeding. The Poles were operating on false information about how popular Lithuania's government was and how much the Lithuanians wanted to be Poland's bitch. No Lithuanian military commanders supported the coup and the only strata of the Lithuanian population which could have backed it was the Polish-speaking aristocracy, which had little to no say in the government and was fleeing Lithuania in mass anyway.

Even if POW wasn't snuffed out before it could amount to anything, the coup would, at best, resemble the 1934 fascist coup attempt in Lithuania - the conspirators occupy a few buildings, put their demands, the government says no and loyal military units take care of the mess.

There are ways how to have Lithuania be attached to Poland with a 1919-21 POD, but this isn't one of them.

0 chance of succeeding? Ok, I'll change the way it's united

 

[Some Bloke]

Balance of power politics in Europe are going to be interesting. So we have a black sea coast and a Baltic coast, but the territory isn't contiguous, or at least not yet.

 

[Adamgerd]

I like the idea of timeline and how it's written but:
1. you wrote "Sanction" instead of "Sanation"

Changed it

2. Contradictory to what's being said, Piłsudski's idea of federation wasn't to create a one state, but rather alliance/loose confederation, especially that Ukrainians and Lithuanians didn't like the idea of union with Poland and restoring the old Commonwealth (in which they believed Poles oppressed them). So the "United Commonwealth" you presented isn't going to be so stable and it will probrably fall at first major crisis or when Piłsudski which i believe holds everything togeter dies.

I changed chapter 1o to make the state more a confederation with it now being clear that it's more of a decentralized confederation than a state, with the states having domestic affairs in their own control.

The 1919 coup attempt by the POW organization had zero chance of succeeding. The Poles were operating on false information about how popular Lithuania's government was and how much the Lithuanians wanted to be Poland's bitch. No Lithuanian military commanders supported the coup and the only strata of the Lithuanian population which could have backed it was the Polish-speaking aristocracy, which had little to no say in the government and was fleeing Lithuania in mass anyway.

Even if POW wasn't snuffed out before it could amount to anything, the coup would, at best, resemble the 1934 fascist coup attempt in Lithuania - the conspirators occupy a few buildings, put their demands, the government says no and loyal military units take care of the mess.

There are ways how to have Lithuania be attached to Poland with a 1919-21 POD, but this isn't one of them.

Changed the union from the coup to the agreement of transfer of Vilnius back for a union

 

[Adamgerd]

Balance of power politics in Europe are going to be interesting. So we have a black sea coast and a Baltic coast, but the territory isn't contiguous, or at least not yet.

Yeah. The Commonwealth will basically be a decentralized confederation with the member states. So the territory is not contigous but in times of warfare, it acts militarily as one country and not 4 several (or at least should). As well while the Polish POD is the most important one, there are other interesting ones mostly due to the initial one, such as the Greek victory over the turks in the battle since Russia does not support Turkey, the plebiscite being more favorable to Poland than it was IRL or even the Russian civil war taking longer due to the loss of Ukraine, a bread basket. More effects will probably result because of this in the future

 

[Adamgerd]

The Recovery After WW1 (1922-1925)

After a long debate and a boycott by the National Democrat movement, the May Constitution is introduced for the Polish state. The act introduced the idea that the state is the common good of the citizens and limits the Senate's and Sejm's power while strengthening the President of Poland to provide for a strong leader, with the president responsible for choosing the members of the government, which is responsible to the parliament and is the Commander-in-chief of the United Commonwealth Army and has a right to issue decrees and veto the Sejm's acts and the president has the right to name his successor in case of war if a 2/3rd majority of the people or the Sejm does not disagree with the choice. It is controversial with some authoritarian features, but now the official constitution of the Polish Republic. The Commonwealth Confederation now has 1/4 of it's seats given to each of the 4 nations and thus creates a parliament of the 4 constituent countries with it representing them in foreign affairs, while they represent themselves in domestic affairs.

The Silesian land was quickly accepted into the confederation as the Silesia Federative Republic enriching the commonwealth as the 5th constituent country but due to their population being smaller and left subsidient on the Polish Republic, they gradually became influenced heavily by Poland. As well as this the Commonwealth parliament decided to reform the 4 separate militaries into one combined military with a centralized military leadership, becoming the "Commonwealth Army" and a common currency, the "Commonwealth Crown" pegged to the gold standard. The Commonwealth Confederation further rebuilt, opening more trade links across the Intermarium alliance and with Czechoslovakia along with inside the country. The Commonwealth Confederation also signed a treaty of friendship with Finland agreeing for mutual trade and a defensive guarantee against the RSFSR.

A policy of state capitalism was implemented in Poland where the economy was capitalist, but the state encouraged production and built new factories to cope with the growing population and it was quickly followed by the rest of the commonwealth confederation. A plan is negotiated for the West, especially France to finance loans to kick start the Commonwealth to turn from agrarian to industrial societies and kick start their industries. This plan is used to finance the first Polish 5 year Plan, created in 1922 by Pilsudski. The Plan is to focus industrial efforts into the hinterland of the Commonwealth, safe from Russian or German aggression, to decrease unemployment and increase the polish industry and starts out with logistical difficulties, resulting in a decrease of it just focusing on the Polish Hinterland due to the other republics fearing what they see as Polish domination over their internal affairs. The plan does have some successes, but it is still being improved and hasn't yet been completed.

Meanwhile the RSFSR, invaded Mongolia, quickly conquering Mongolia and forming the Mongolian SSR in 1923 but the defenders around Vladivostok successfully defended it in 1923 against the attacking Reds in coalition with the Japanese. Large scale revolts by peasants occur across Siberia, angered at the continuation of the War economy, resulting in the Bolshevik army being moved to crush the revolters from Vladivostok, allowing the whites to consolidate their hold and expand across the Pacific Coast with Japanese support and agreeing (under duress) to the Japanese Treaty of Friendship with the Provisional Priamurye Government, with Japan supporting the Provisional Priamurye Government in holding the pacific coast, but de facto the Provisional Priamurye Government became a Japanese satellite.

After a steady expansion, the Reds stalemated the whites at the Amur River and the civil war continued on.

The Russian troops from Mongolia returned but failed to launch a successful offensive in Winter of 1923/1924 and so both sides regrouped for an offensive in the summer of 1924. Vladimir Lenin suppressed the peasant and separatist revolts to try to have the reds only focus on the Provisional Priamurye Government. Meanwhile the Provisional Priamurye Government declared the restoration of Grand Duke Nicholas Nikolaevich of Russia in 1924 as the head of State and labeled the civil war, a crusade to eradicate communism from the empire. The Restoration of the Grand Duke leads to Allied moral support as they disliked the former premier and especially the UK is pleased with a monarchial restoration

The Mad Baron of Mongolia after futilely defending the nation and seeing himself as betrayed by his people evacuated with his royal government to form the “Mongolian Government-in-exile” in Vladivostok, supporting the Russian troops in return for a liberation of Mongolia and forming a mongolian regiment of the white army.

The Weimar government in Germany failed to pay the reparation payments and so the Ruhr was occupied by Franco-Belgian forces. Gustav Stresemann coming to power, ended the passive resistance, securing germany but was protested against by Nationalists, especially the right-wing disillusioned Freikorps and the far-right NSDAP, but it was also under opposition by the KDP, who condemned the occupation by whom they saw as “Capitalist Oppressors”. The NSDAP after fierce debate decided to postpone the putsch as they decided to not trust the bavarian government, leading to the more radical and impatient members to leave and turn to the communists, but otherwise leads to a gradual unification of the party's factions. France keeps occupation

With the RSRF loss of support for Turkey and their defeat against the Greeks, the turks demoralized retreated to Ankara, which the greeks sieged while the turks in the south failed to halt the advancing French. The Turkish defeat is now nearly certain and the question of defeat now becomes one of when. Soon afterwards, Ankara fell and the treaty of Ankara was signed in 1925, which had the following terms:

1. The restoration of all Treaty of Sévres terms except for when it conflicted with the below terms or they were in addition

2. All land below in black (excluding land not part of Turkey) were to be part of Greece

3. All land which was black and white striped was to be demilitarized by Turkey

4. The Turkish Border with the mandate of Syria was to be demilitarized

5. The Ottomans to be restored to power of Turkey with Kemal stepping down from power

6. Armenia to be released with the borders below

The Treaty of Ankara mainly benefited the greeks and the Armenians over the Turks and led to increased popularity of the monarchy and Eleftherios Venizelos won the Greek legislative election in 1923 decisively due to this, leading to the Government being at odds with itself about the issue of monarchy afterwards. As well it led to perpetual hatred by Turkey of Greece and Armenia leading to several border clashes after implementation. The Harsh terms of the Plan also generate international sympathy for the Turks, helping their reputation and harming that of Greece and Armenia


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IRL notes

1. In this timeline, Lenin has not yet died as of 1924/1925

 

[Redcoat]

I'm intrigued. And god do I love Poland. Watched.

 

[Adamgerd]

The Years of Peace (1925-1929)

Overall the late 20's was a relatively peaceful decade as nations gradually recovered from the horrors of the World war and the latter chaos, though there was an exception in eastern europe, where a war long brewing was ignited.

The Commonwealth is further reformed to be more centralized with still 4 separate parliaments, but one federational leader to be in charge

After a long debate and a boycott by the National Democrat movement, the May Constitution is introduced for the Polish state. The act introduced the idea that the state is the common good of the citizens and limits the Senate's and Sejm's power while strengthening the President of Poland to provide for a strong leader, with the president responsible for choosing the members of the government, which is responsible to the parliament and is the Commander-in-chief of the United Commonwealth Army and has a right to issue decrees and veto the Sejm's acts and the president has the right to name his successor in case of war if a 2/3rd majority of the people or the Sejm does not disagree with the choice. It is controversial with some authoritarian features, but now the official constitution of the Polish Republic. The Commonwealth Confederation now has 1/4 of it's seats given to each of the 4 nations and thus creates a parliament of the 4 constituent countries with it representing them in foreign affairs, while they represent themselves in domestic affairs.

As well as this the Commonwealth parliament decided to reform the 4 separate militaries into one combined military with a centralized military leadership, becoming the "Commonwealth Army" and a common currency, the "Commonwealth Crown" pegged to the gold standard. The Commonwealth Confederation further rebuilt, opening more trade links across the Intermarium alliance and with Czechoslovakia along with inside the country. The Commonwealth Confederation also signed a treaty of friendship with Finland agreeing for mutual trade and a defensive guarantee against the RSFSR. The Silesian land, being small and subsidient on Poland, was influenced by Poland into passing the Act of Stateship, turning it into a state of Poland and thus abolishing its function as the 5th republic in the commonwealth. The polish 5 year plan is continued, but due to delays is only finished in 1928. The Polish Government launches a second 5 year plan, focused on industrializing the heartland even more for the next period of 5 years.

Meanwhile Lenin died at the far eastern front after denouncing Stalin and the USSR entered a crisis with the Provisional Priamurye Government invading Siberia, taking advantage of the chaos. After weeks of civil war, Leon Trotsky rose to power, swearing to spread the revolution to the world. He immediately drafts and installs the Act of Union, which forms the Mongolian SSR, Russian SFSR, Transcaucasian SSR and unites them into the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR). The Civil war continuing on reaches a climax, as Trotsky enacts the “Vladivostok Offensive”, launching it in March of 1926, quickly seizing land west of the Amur river and Kamchatka, before bogging down in the trenches east of Amur, but slowly pushing through. He decided that with victory in the far-east in his grasp, he must spread the revolution into Europe and so he invades the Commonwealth to form a land bridge to the German Reich to further the communist revolution. The Russian troops, quickly overrun the few trenches available in the commonwealth though delayed in Finland by the Mannerheim Line, while continuing the advance in the far-east with artillery bombing Vladivostok, though it’s pacific fleet is eliminated in a disastrous battle near Kamchatka.

Both Turkey and Greece see it opportunistically, but neither invades fearing the other to invade them in the moment of weakness and so staying neutral

Across the Ukrainian, Lithuanian and Belarusian fronts, USSR vanguards, having infiltrated the commonwealth, prior to the invasion enact Plan Red Surge.

As the Commonwealth forces start slowing down the rapid USSR’s advance, the Red Surge results in mass revolts throughout Lithuania, Ukraine and Belarus against Polish responsibility for the war and “subjugation”. While the effects are not as strong as hoped for by Lenin, they are enough to demoralize the commonwealth and launch Phase 2 of the advance, designed to quickly capture the capitals, Minsk, Kiev. Meanwhile the second red surge is enacted in finland by remaining Finnish Reds, resulting in a partial collapse of finnish defenses and the russian troops advancing past finnish karelia, though at a heavy cost.

Though initially successful, exploiting the feeling of subjugation by Poland of the ethnic minorities with Minsk, Kiev, Helsinki, Lublin, Khabarovsk fallen to the USSR and vanguards of the USSR army even reaching Bialystok and Lublin, the promised worker’s revolution fail to materialize and with Allied and Japanese support, dangerous supply lines and the running out of initiative, the USSR's advance peters out at the outskirts of Warsaw and Vladivostok, with the enemy combatants, now with Allied support overturning the Soviet advance and gradually reclaiming occupied land and in 1929 even advancing into the USSR, with Finnish Forces capturing Leningrad and Commonwealth Forces recapturing Donetsk. A failed coup against Trotsky is the last straw, pressuring him to seek an armistice. The armistice eventually leads to the Peace of Leningrad (1929) with the following terms:

1. The USSR and Priamurye Provisional Government recognise each other and create their borders at the Amur River
   
   
2. Kamchatka is ceded to the USSR
   
   
3. The Karelian Autonomous Soviet Socialist Republic (i.e. Karelia) is ceded to Finland
   
   
4. St. Petersburg is to be demilitarized
   
   
5. The Azov Sea is to be demilitarized
   
   
6. Minor border changes as cities with russian majority are transferred from the commonwealth to the USSR
   
   
7. Both sides agree to a 10 year non-aggression pact
   
   
8. No Army is to go within 5 km of the border with the opposing party
   
   
9. Mongolia is to be kept as a SSR of Russia

The Provisional Priamurye Government officially recognised what was de facto recognised before (i.e. that it logistically cannot conquer mainland Russia and thus is only representative of the land east of the Amur) and so renamed itself “Transamur”.

Trotsky lost support after being defeated and forced to sign such a “humiliating peace” and so many supporters defected to Stalin who launched a revolution against Trotsky, soon victorious as Trotsky’s supporters defected, leading to his exile from the USSR. Josef Stalin abolished the Act of Union, denouncing it as a mark of defeat, restoring the Russification and the RSFSR being the primary government. Transcaucasia SSR and Mongolia SSR both revolted but were quickly pacified by russian troops.

The Mad Baron of Mongolia is angered at the white russian betrayal of his nation and tries to escape White Russia, but is betrayed and given to the reds in return for monetary compensation where he is imprisoned, while his regiment disperses to resist in Mongolia.

The Locarno Honeymoon happens as relations between germany and the west increase with the world experiencing an economic upturn, though relations between Germany and Poland stay very hostile, with Poland infiltrating Masuria and Germany infiltrating Danzig. The democratic parties experience a growth while the radicals to varying degrees decrease

Kemal is assassinated in the ottoman empire by ultra-nationalists in anger of his incompetence and defeat to the Greeks, making the turkish situation even more volatile with the Ottomans becoming increasingly revanchist against Greece.

Meanwhile Italy angry at being betrayed in the Mutilated Peace and having succumbed to Mussolini’s march on Rome bolsters ties with the Spanish Authoritarian Regime and with Nationalist China after Chiang Kai-Shek takes power over the Kuomintang, starting an alliance later referred to as the "Triple Alliance", an alliance between Fascist Italy, Authoritarian Spain and Nationalist China.

The US became more isolated, seeing European matters as not affecting them. Britain and France, once strong allies in the heat of World war 1 after Rheinland fractured, and their relations are much more ambivalent with many French seeing it as a British betrayal while the brits see it as French arrogance, further fracturing their relations

 

[Redcoat]

Yay it's back!

 

[Adamgerd]

Yay it's back!

indeed it is, I did not have much time lately to write the chapter which is why it took longer then expected

 

[Adamgerd]

Rising Tensions (1929-1935)

The period between 1929 and 1935 was later referred to as the era of rising tensions. The Treaty of versailles truly was only an armistice in hindsight.

The Commonwealth is federalized fully and all government are merged into one central government with a central parliament of all votes, amidst protest from the smaller states with Pilsudski in charge to unite the nation better, with a united constitution being drafted, incorporating elements from the various constitutions and making all cultures and languages equal to each other. However some of the other republics experience a rise of nationalism as what they see as Polish imperialism, supported by Soviet and German intelligence agencies

The Commonwealth Army starts preparing to defend against the russians, while the commonwealth government funds the Mins-Kiev Line, a system of fortifications designed to stop any russian advance into the commonwealth though neglecting the line against Germany

The Commonwealth Confederation commits to an anti-comintern pact and invites all states who are anti-communist or join. Finland and Greece both show initially interest but react with caution especially Finland given its boundary with Russia. The commonwealth enters a new program of infrastructure repair that connects the regions better together and opening more trade links across the Intermarium alliance and with Czechoslovakia along with inside the country. The Commonwealth Confederation also signed a treaty of friendship with Finland agreeing for mutual trade and a defensive guarantee against the RSFSR.

The Polish Government second 5 year plan, focused on industrializing the heartland even more for the next period of 5 years is continued, while the russian system of fortifications is also funded.

August 7th, 1930 the US stock market crashes. This causes a great depression as across the world, though particularly in the US and Europe, stock markets crash with economies entering a deep recession and extremism rising.

The Russian Socialist Federative Republic becomes more radicalized with Stalin violating the treaty of Leningrad in 1930, remilitarizing St. Petersburg and the Azov sea but the opposition, tired of the war, limits its response to verbal protest, though Priamurye alone calls ups it’s reserves.

The Locarno Honeymoon ends and with Nazi lack of motive since not trying the beer putsch, more flock to the red banner, as the communists are the only source of hope and they quickly rise in power, and for the first time in the Weimar Government, the largest party was the KPD winning 273 seats, and being the largest party though not being a majority. New elections are held and with them threatening a strike, they’re finally invited to form the government having around 43% of the vote. They soon form trade unions and start preparing to seize control of the state. The Western allies cannot vastly condemn it yet given that it still is operating under democracy and they are tired of war, only warning sanctions if democracy collapses. Meanwhile Germany publicly demands the Ruhr occupation to end and France given the Great Depression and without British Backing reluctantly withdraws, ending it and increasing support for the leading party

Even the commonwealth is not immune to the various political trends as Christian Rakovsky, a former Ukrainian SSR Leader denounces the polish imperialism from abroad and spreading propaganda that the poverty of the ukranians is due to the polish imperialism and thieving of Ukrainian gold but not giving any gold back. At first he is marginalized, but an underground communist movement is revived in the great depression which advocates for separatism and causes terrorist attacks in the name of the Proletariat of Ukraine against Polish imperialism as it sees the commonwealth as merely a Polish, capitalist ploy to industrialize Poland at the cost of Ukraine. The Commonwealth attempts to repress the movement but it only backfires, strengthening the communists. Similar movements occur in Lithuania and Belarus though at a smaller scale not approaching the same size as the Ukrainian communist resistance.

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OOC Notes: Large overhaul due to the previous version being implausible

 

[Sceonn]

So a communist Germany with no reaction from the West (which is ABS), without the resources plundered from Czechoslovakia nor the clandestine rearmament being possible as well as lacking the coal and industries of the Rhur region; and a Russia that has suffered multiple foreign and civil wars and thus unable to complete its industrialization along with missing it's bread basket in Ukraine therefore likely suffering famines, managed to defeat a commonwealth of 5 nations...

At least try to keep it within the border limits of plausibility.

 

[Adamgerd]

So a communist Germany with no reaction from the West (which is ABS), without the resources plundered from Czechoslovakia nor the clandestine rearmament being possible as well as lacking the coal and industries of the Rhur region; and a Russia that has suffered multiple foreign and civil wars and thus unable to complete its industrialization along with missing it's bread basket in Ukraine therefore likely suffering famines, managed to defeat a commonwealth of 5 nations...

At least try to keep it within the border limits of plausibility.

Sorry for the late response, I dont see why communist germany should have a large reaction from the west (they're still tired from the wars and dont have cooperation). As for the second part, might be improbable though do remember that the nationalists of the 4 other nations want independence, I will change it though to add the ruhr and do it more accurately

 

[Adamgerd]

Apologies for the long inactivity, planning how to solve the implausibility and also real life limited my time to write updates, hopefully the updates should be launched more regularly again

 

[Redcoat]

Apologies for the long inactivity, planning how to solve the implausibility and also real life limited my time to write updates, hopefully the updates should be launched more regularly again

Yay!

 

[Adamgerd]

OOC: Will try to create a world map to post

Edit: Fixed a border

 

[lukedalton]

Ok, seem that Dalmatia and Malta are now Italian but Austria kept South Tyrol

 

[Adamgerd]

Ok, seem that Dalmatia and Malta are now Italian but Austria kept South Tyrol

That should be Istria, not Dalmatia just not sure exactly where to have Istria. As for the other 2, yeah those are border mistakes, must've missed them during the map, Western Europe really is the same, the changes are mainly in Turkey and Eastern Europe