Integration now, integration yesterday, integration since...

We're in Post-1900, aren't we?

just asking jeez, well Plessy v. Ferguson is in 1896, only John Marshall Harlan dissented on that..... so to get a Brown V Board or anything like that you have to wait till the 20s, maybe.... well if TR wins in 1912, Progressives and Socialists get into Congress, TR brings Blacks into the the army as part of the USA being in WWI from early days, thats a start, I mean it'd be best if the Dems put up a true Southern right winger rather than the wolf in sheeps clothes that was WW, the Dems get stuck in the South and lock the GOP, Progressives and Socialists out and the 3 other parties don't give a damn about pissing off the South.
 
Legally speaking? Legally speaking, it could happen after the Civil War. Now as for after 1900, the Supreme Court could rule on segragation any time a case is brought before them. For or against, I can't say. I guess T.R. could have ordered the Army and Navy to integrate.

Now, I do have a point here, even if it is kind of an obvious one. Legally, integration could happen far sooner than it would have been accepted culturally speaking. You can legislate quite a few things, but the general attitude of a population is not one of them.
 
I'd say late 1940s, early 1950s, maybe.

I'd certainly agree it would be quite late. The trouble is that to a large extent it depended on factors external to the US.

WW2 helped somewhat, by associating racism with Nazism and making it less respectable, but the more important factors were decolonisation and the Cold War. These put the US into competition with the Communist Bloc for the support of a lot of ex-colonies which were largely non-white in population. In such circumstances, the racial setup down south became an intolerable handicap. Thus had the US remained isolationist, it would probably have remained segregationist as well, or at least the pressure to do something about segregation would have been a lot weaker.

Can decolonisation and something like the Cold War be made to happen earlier? If so, I would expect movement sooner on the US racial front as well.
 
Can decolonisation and something like the Cold War be made to happen earlier? If so, I would expect movement sooner on the US racial front as well.

decolonisation maybe, again to my TR wins 1912 idea, with TR at the table in 1919 things go differently maybe this leads to decolonisation in the 20s and 30s not the 50s and 60s
 
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Integration now, integration yesterday, integration since...
What is the earliest plausible date by which segregation may be ended in the United States?
De-Segregation is not Integration
Verse - Segregation
In Verse - Non Segregation
Con Verse - Integration
Re Verse - Non Integration
I think I have these correct, Perhaps someone with more knowledge of Formal Logic, can check, for me.

When in 1964 the Supreme Court held that Race was a Insidious Distinction [Anti Miscegenation Laws Ruling] The US was Legally De-Segregated. All Race based laws where no longer enforceable.
However it would take years for the laws/rulings mandating Forced Integration to take effect. [Some think they still haven't.]

OTL TV had a big effect, as National Networks broadcast the Beatings and Fire-hosing of the Protesters.
Perhaps Earlier TV & Nationwide Broadcasting, could advance De-Segregation by a decade of so.

Or President Taft during his WW 1 years,
Or FDR could call Segregation a Restriction of Trade during the Depression.
 
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