Industrialization and Global Economics without the World Wars?

Brazil might actually get more investment from the US and UK. The US is likely to be much more focused on the Western Hemisphere and to lesser extent maybe the Far East too. They aren’t going to be investing as heavily into Europe without the world wars. The US especially won’t be as dominant in Europe economically as otl. Trade is going to be more mutual and less one sided by the two. Germany probably dominates mainland Europe economically while Britain has a tight grip on most global trade. Britain controls 1/3 of the world and has the world largest navy. Germany might be more advanced in industry and have better production but Britain has control over a large amount of the world’s raw resources. Britain and US could have a odd relationship when it comes to investing in Latin America or South America. Britain probably distance itself more from Europe then otl and starts focusing more overseas especially in places like Latin America. The question is how much would US and UK business and investors blur together in Latin America. A lot of British and New England capitalist often worked together and mixed.

The investiment of the kind that the US and the UK are going to do are basically setting up here factories to send the profit back to their home countries since Brazil remains without any kind of labour regulation without the world wars. At the end this can blow over and we have a left wing dictatorship in Brazil, or things proceed as they are and Brazil is turned into a american economical colony as OTL.
 
The investiment of the kind that the US and the UK are going to do are basically setting up here factories to send the profit back to their home countries since Brazil remains without any kind of labour regulation without the world wars. At the end this can blow over and we have a left wing dictatorship in Brazil, or things proceed as they are and Brazil is turned into a american economical colony as OTL.
They is biased and wrong, Brazil isn't a colony of the us by any stretch of the word, foreign investment is a good thing economically speaking, it doesn't matter who does it. If a more stable Brazil is able to reform education and exploit its advantages it might reach first world level a lot quicker than OTL Brazil
 
They is biased and wrong, Brazil isn't a colony of the us by any stretch of the word, foreign investment is a good thing economically speaking, it doesn't matter who does it. If a more stable Brazil is able to reform education and exploit its advantages it might reach first world level a lot quicker than OTL Brazil

Brazil is a colony, since most of the production of non agrarian goods is on the hands of foreign companies since the government of Fernando Collor in the 90s.

Most countries have a law to keep some of the profit from foreign companies there, we did signed that law in 1962 that obligated them to reinvest a symbolical 20% of their profit on anything, even on their own industries, just to prevent all the profiting from being shipped back. This was one of the main causes of the 1964 coup. Brazil also reached a level of economical independence until the 70s that we had a healthy internal market, this market have collapsed and some things that you could buy made in Brazil are now imported or from foreign companies installed in Brazil. This went so far that Brazil is usually seem as a case of study of a country that managed to have a complex internal market and even build a export economy and then devolved into a agrarian foreign domined one. The worst is to come, however, as now the working rights are being slashed under Bolsonaro and we can expect a lot of dissent to grow.
 
Brazil is a colony, since most of the production of non agrarian goods is on the hands of foreign companies since the government of Fernando Collor in the 90s.

Most countries have a law to keep some of the profit from foreign companies there, we did signed that law in 1962 that obligated them to reinvest a symbolical 20% of their profit on anything, even on their own industries, just to prevent all the profiting from being shipped back. This was one of the main causes of the 1964 coup. Brazil also reached a level of economical independence until the 70s that we had a healthy internal market, this market have collapsed and some things that you could buy made in Brazil are now imported or from foreign companies installed in Brazil. This went so far that Brazil is usually seem as a case of study of a country that managed to have a complex internal market and even build a export economy and then devolved into a agrarian foreign domined one. The worst is to come, however, as now the working rights are being slashed under Bolsonaro and we can expect a lot of dissent to grow.
Foreign investment really comes down to how your nation reacts to it. If they push too hard they chase it way and have to rely on local and government investment. If they are too lenient they are going to get screwed and exploited hard. The UK and US are willing to give back a bit but they will take advantage of you if you let them. Same goes for their businesses. It really comes down to Brazil trying to find a middle ground with them while still being competitive with other possible nations that could take investment away from them. If the businesses and government can both make money both sides are usually happy. I don’t know if that will make Brazil democratic or not. It could still go either way on that. Brazil could just be a more wealthy and practical dictatorship. Democracy might be a more political issue.
 
Foreign investment really comes down to how your nation reacts to it. If they push too hard they chase it way and have to rely on local and government investment. If they are too lenient they are going to get screwed and exploited hard. The UK and US are willing to give back a bit but they will take advantage of you if you let them. Same goes for their businesses. It really comes down to Brazil trying to find a middle ground with them while still being competitive with other possible nations that could take investment away from them. If the businesses and government can both make money both sides are usually happy. I don’t know if that will make Brazil democratic or not. It could still go either way on that. Brazil could just be a more wealthy and practical dictatorship. Democracy might be a more political issue.

Yes. We had that middle ground and a healthy internal market, the problem is that we adopted a self destructive instance on the 90s with the right wing liberals.

The thing is: The middle ground was possible due the events following the 1930 revolution that led to the populist era (1930-1964), at that time Brazil flourished, but it was cut back by the US sponsored military coup in 1964, the dictatorship then proceeded to crash some sectors of the economy, like the automobile sector allowing a small oligopoly of six foreign industries (GM, Ford, VW, Fiat, Honda and Toyota) to take over. Other sectors that were aligned with the dictatorship like the agrarian sector and the R&D sector were turned into massive corrupt complexes that prevented any competition on their area (to have a idea brazilians didn't possessed home telephones until the 1990s since there was one state owned industry having a monopoly on certain regions andt he services were awful), and then the dictatorship ended, protecionism was lifted, the internal market crashed and here are we now, even worse than the starting point.

^^ The point I want to make is that without the world wars there is no 1930 revolution, and Brazil keeps it's agrarian oligarchy in power indefinitively, so while in OTL we had a dream and made projects for the future, this might not happen on this TL, Brazil might not even surpass Argentina because the Mexican and the Argentinian economy were the leaders in LA in the early 20th century, not ours.
 
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