Independent Texas and/or California?

The slavery question.

Oh duh...now I feel dumb. So...northern politicians block the entry of a slave state...then Texas tries to go it alone, has issues with Mexico, and then seeks assistance from GB...Texas keeps home rule in exchange for British military presence.
 
somehow delay the whole texas thing, thereby delayin the war with mexico...1848 rolls around and gold is discovered, by 1850 there are thousands of americans who then secede from mexico and are independant???
 

Faraday Cage

Maybe if Texas becomes independent the Western territories will fill up with people expecting their own new country too and you'll end up with a Western confederation independent of the United States. After all couldn't the loyalists of California and Oregon be overwhelmed by an influx of new, impetuous settlers?
 
Keeping Lamar's group in power would also do the trick. They wanted not only Texan independence, but a Texas expanding from the Gulf to the Pacific.

Better yet, imagine a western nation that compromises California, Texas, as well as Arizona, New Mexico, etc. Utah and the rest, too?
 
Better yet, imagine a western nation that compromises California, Texas, as well as Arizona, New Mexico, etc. Utah and the rest, too?

You would have to leave New Mexico out. They were really the only area where the civilians resisted the US occupation during the Mexican-American war. On January 1847 the famous Taos Rebellion happened.

Short Video on the Taos Rebellion. One mistake the video has is that New Mexico was not a Mexican State. It was just still a territory. And the official name of the territory under Mexico was "Santa Fe de Nuevo México".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMJmdS3Mcvg

More information on what happened in Taos:
http://www.laplaza.org/comm/about_taos/history/sovereignty.html

New Mexico existed way before Texas and California. New Mexico in all those centuries from the Spanish to Mexico to the US has mostly had the same borders. Once read that a US General in the 1800's once commented that if New Mexico was not important in getting from Texas to California that they should give it back to Mexico.

Off-Topic - The Spanish Monarchs are in New Mexico tomorrow. It is the second time they visit there. Seems New Mexico and Spain have a special relationship.

This is the story from the University of New Mexico:
http://www.unm.edu/~market/cgi-bin/archives/004338.html
 
Query if Virginia and other upper South States had abolished slavery would the ruling group in Texas want to join the Union. Might elements of the US in those circumstances not want a new slave state.
 
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