Independent Quebec

Low effort on my part, I'm sorry.
What are some likely opportunities for Quebec to become an independent country?
Roughly no lager than modern Quebec Province, could be much smaller.
 
Low effort on my part, I'm sorry.
What are some likely opportunities for Quebec to become an independent country?
Roughly no lager than modern Quebec Province, could be much smaller.
Maybe a independance referedum some time later than 1960. Quebec might need to be more franco-phone though.
 
The US and Britain fight a war, and the US wins pretty handily outside of a few naval battles. The US gets most of OTL Canada, but Quebec is released as an independant republic.
 
Quebec refuses to join Canada and becomes its own Dominion.

In 1867? Can't happen, the economy is too intertwined and the politics of the era was based on the compromise between the two nations which had existed since the 1840s. The real impetus for modern independence comes from post 1918 French Canadian identity maneuvering. So much was premised on the connections with Maritime Canada and eventually the agricultural wealth of the prairies and mineral wealth of the north.

Before the 20th century there was no "Quebec" nationalism to co-opt either by inside or outside forces, as what we identify as the modern Quebec identity had not yet formed.

The path to an independent Quebec comes in the 20th century, not before.
 
In 1867? Can't happen, the economy is too intertwined and the politics of the era was based on the compromise between the two nations which had existed since the 1840s. The real impetus for modern independence comes from post 1918 French Canadian identity maneuvering. So much was premised on the connections with Maritime Canada and eventually the agricultural wealth of the prairies and mineral wealth of the north.

Before the 20th century there was no "Quebec" nationalism to co-opt either by inside or outside forces, as what we identify as the modern Quebec identity had not yet formed.

The path to an independent Quebec comes in the 20th century, not before.

It's correct that the notion of being Québécois, as opposed to Canadien, developed mainly in the XX century. But the sense of Canadien nationhood existed long before that, the Parti Patriote being the most obvious manifestation.
 
It's correct that the notion of being Québécois, as opposed to Canadien, developed mainly in the XX century. But the sense of Canadien nationhood existed long before that, the Parti Patriote being the most obvious manifestation.

The Patriotes (and their successors, the Parti Rouge) were at best, a minority. The French Canadian identity was mainly concerned with setting itself apart from the 'English' with a heavy concentration in the Crown and the Church which both ostensibly protected them. This gave them a weird tie in with the British government, especially post 1840 with the party politics and East-West ties through Lafontaine, Tache, and Cartier. Any expression of being 'Canadian' was positive, and it wasn't until after 1885 when the French populace felt they had to look out for themselves uniformly, and not until 1960 when they started looking at themselves as a functionally separate nation, rather than a culturally separate one.

Was there an equivalent before 1812?

Before the Conquest the Canadiens considered themselves, well French. But when both the Conquest and the Revolution showed them they had no real place with the French Crown anymore they turned to a local identity. This was primarily being the opposite of both the 'Yankees' and the 'English' which meant staunchly Catholic and conservative with the monarchy in mind. You found more French people saying 'Vive le Roi' than the opposite.
 
Before the Conquest the Canadiens considered themselves, well French. But when both the Conquest and the Revolution showed them they had no real place with the French Crown anymore they turned to a local identity. This was primarily being the opposite of both the 'Yankees' and the 'English' which meant staunchly Catholic and conservative with the monarchy in mind. You found more French people saying 'Vive le Roi' than the opposite.

Also, wasn’t there widespread outrage in Quebec over the execution of Louis XVI?
 
USA gets the Nippising line as its northern boundary after independence.

Later on the maritimes form their own union and OTL Quebec becomes its own thing as well.
 
Probably some local noble (called seigneur) or, after the french revolution, a french noble complient with the British rule

It could be a convenient "retirement home" for the Bourbons if the British are forced to concede to Nappy sitting on the French throne on a more or less permenent basis.
 
The 1837 revolts last longer and are bloodier, The US stays out, but many Americans unofficially get involved.
In the end "Quebec" still looses the war but not without gains.

The Commonwealth of Canada is established, basically independent in all but name. This Canada is rather different than its otl version. They are given basically the area of otls Quebec, and even granted control over its own immigration policy.

Separated from the rest of British North America early on Canada grows as something of a Francophone wedge between the Eastern Maritimes and Western British North America.

The Dominion of Canada never forms here, rather we see the establishmnt of four nations out of what we know to be one. The Dominion of Victoria, (Canada everything west of otls Quebec, to British Columbia) The Commonwealth of Canada, and the Maritime Commonwealth. *here pod the name commonwealth is used more in favor of the term Dominion

Americas neighbors to the north are orderly friendly states, with varying degrees of shared heritage all based on the principal of responsible government. Except Canada, the most independent minded of them all, it officially cut all links with the crown in 1973, and established a republican form of government. The first to do so, but Victoria has toyed with the idea of doing the same. British Columbia and the Maritime Commonwealth are fiercely proud of their heritage and are the most vocal about their shared link to the crown.
 
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