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It's been discussed to death I know, I've done a search on the forums but my question has gone unanswered.

Without a major wank (no "free Aragonese Italy again") is there any chance during the 1600's- specifically after reading about the Portuguese bout with the Spanish for independence- is there any chance Aragon or Catalonia could've gained independence?

Any PoD any chance, at any point could an independent nation have been set up that broke up Spain? It'd be a large feat and I'm not saying it's possible; I'm just wondering, without going ASB or completely wanking the crap out of the region could there just be a simple split along the lines of Portugal? Or is there no chance without an earlier PoD or something.
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