In the event of a French-Anglo War in the early 1900s. How much of French Indochina could Thailand grab

Say France and Britain end up on oppose sides of a war in the early 1900s. How much of French Indochina would Thailand be to take if it sided with Britain in a French-Anglo War.
 
Theoretically they could grab a fair bit. However, they dont have much in the way of "expeditionary" capacity. Sure, this is a next door land grab, but that's still a far cry from internal action.
IF they try and grab something its liable to be more of a border land grab. Ethnic and cultural differences also make limited grab more palatable. ...think of the Russian acquisition of Crimea for instance.

A lot of this depends on the type of Anglo-French conflict, its breadth and its outcome. Moreover, there are other regional powers that could get in the way.
 
Problem is what happens after the Anglos and French finish War War and start to Jaw Jaw

The French 'Empire' is going to be pretty pissed off at them when they are no longer distracted by their favourite enemy and worst friend
 
Thailand would only be able to grab up as much as the UK would allow them to. The last thing the Brits would want would be to remind an emboldened Thailand that they have old grudges in the Malay Peninsula and along the Burmese border that they might want to resolve...
 

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Thailand would only be able to grab up as much as the UK would allow them to. The last thing the Brits would want would be to remind an emboldened Thailand that they have old grudges in the Malay Peninsula and along the Burmese border that they might want to resolve...
But when Thailand is busy in Cambodia and Laos, they aren't doing anything near Burma, and that's a win
 
How about a Great War level of conflict ?


Would World War 2 level of gains be likely ?
Depends on how early in the 20th Century... IIRC Thailand didn't lose those areas later taken back from France in WWII until like 1904-07... I doubt Thailand would make a play for all of Cambodia, or try to push their eastern frontier east of the Mekong, unless it was via some kind of vassal arrangement with the Lao princes...
 
Would the Siamese government risk a war at all? They could do a China and hope for border revisions without actively taking part to the war itself.
 
Depends on how early in the 20th Century... IIRC Thailand didn't lose those areas later taken back from France in WWII until like 1904-07... I doubt Thailand would make a play for all of Cambodia, or try to push their eastern frontier east of the Mekong, unless it was via some kind of vassal arrangement with the Lao princes...
Most of Laos was Siamese before around 1893, I can easily see an attempt to reclaim the area.
 
After April 1904 there was an alliance with France, Britain & Russia to balance the German, Austria & Italy alliance so there was only a few years for a war to start, however after January 1902 Britain had an alliance with Japan. There was a volunteer French force the fought with the Boers against the in the 2nd Boer and were beaten with their commander Comte de Villebois-Mareuil killed in April 1900 its possible this sparked a fire of anti-British feeling in France especially about their control of the Suez Canal which was French build & mostly owned. Thinking British are fully distracted in South Africa the French try to seize around the canal to force the British to pay for usage in 1902. Japan would probably take the opportunity to support the new ally by seizing coastal ports in Indo-China with Australia & New Zealand going after her Pacific Island territories.
 
How about a Great War level of conflict ?


Would World War 2 level of gains be likely ?
Ahh...

In this case, France loses most of her fleet hands down, and is limited against anyone post war. The outcome of the land war, probably centered around Belgium, is beside the point for the case of Thailand.

Japan could well follow through on her alliance with Britain due to the chance to grab French Territory. You could see Thailand tag team a couple French colonies with Japan.

Regarding the land war, the UK is in a poor position regardless of the start of the conflict in that she simply lacks the ability to put men into the field on the scale that France can. On the other hand, Britain can systematically take French colonies due to RN dominance on the Blue water.
 
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Say France and Britain end up on oppose sides of a war in the early 1900s. How much of French Indochina would Thailand be to take if it sided with Britain in a French-Anglo War.
Depends whether Japan wants in and bites off some pieces of course they may be too busy fighting Russia who should be in this war too one imagines..
 
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