Implications of no Spanish Conquista?

[Anticlimacus]

No Spanish expansion in the Americas probably means no Controversial of Valladolid, no Laws of Indies. Probably the School of Salamanca would be butterflied. The idea of Amerindians being soul-less beings (as it was the protestant view) would be prevalent; International Law could also be butterflied; the conquest of the Aztec and Incan empires could be butterflied, that means no hyperinflaction due to the american silver and gold, no monetary theories.

 

[Blair]

No Spanish expansion in the Americas probably means no Controversial of Valladolid, no Laws of Indies. Probably the School of Salamanca would be butterflied. The idea of Amerindians being soul-less beings (as it was the protestant view) would be prevalent; International Law could also be butterflied; the conquest of the Aztec and Incan empires could be butterflied, that means no hyperinflaction due to the american silver and gold, no monetary theories.

Wouldnt another European Empire conquer the Aztecs / Incans in place of the Spainish to aquire the gold & silver? Also wouldnt said empires experience the hyperinflation along the same lines the Spanish did OTL?

 

[Blair]

Also do you think a lack of Spanish colonization would butterfly away OTL patterns of NE American colonization. Would there be a New France, British Canada, or U.S.?

 

[B_Munro]

Wouldnt another European Empire conquer the Aztecs / Incans in place of the Spainish to aquire the gold & silver? Also wouldnt said empires experience the hyperinflation along the same lines the Spanish did OTL?

Inflation was actually Europe-wide, since the silver didn't stay in Spain: the Spanish economy in the 16th century was in trouble for a number of reasons. (Among other things, expelling the Jews and the Moriscos - the most productive urban elements of the population - didn't help).

Bruce

 

[B_Munro]

Also do you think a lack of Spanish colonization would butterfly away OTL patterns of NE American colonization. Would there be a New France, British Canada, or U.S.?

If the French or the British get there first, they'll probably do what the Spaniards did and concentrate on the population-and-loot rich areas of Mesoamerica and the Andes and get around to the NE later than OTL if at all...

Bruce

 

[Malta]

Inflation was actually Europe-wide, since the silver didn't stay in Spain: the Spanish economy in the 16th century was in trouble for a number of reasons. (Among other things, expelling the Jews and the Moriscos - the most productive urban elements of the population - didn't help).

Bruce

It also traveled to China and went havoc on the Ming.

 

[Blair]

So the economic situation in Europe is still a basket case, and the British/French/Portugese carve up S America along the same patterns as the Spanish OTL while leaving N America be for a while? If N. America is of little interest might some other nations try thier hand in colonizing the areas the British/French did OTL?

 

[Blair]

Anyone got an opinion on the question above?

 

[Malta]

Well, if the colonization of North America becomes less uniform and erupts in more wars Russia might expand their influence in the NW.

 

[9 Fanged Hummingbird]

Well the patterns of colonization certainly wouldn't resemble OTL, nor would anything be a certainty. And every place is likely to look drastically different. I mean let's be honest, if Cortes doesn't conquer the Aztec Empire and all that jazz, what are the chances that the Lake of Mexico will still be drained, mass burnings of books and people to occur, reorganization of society into a caste system, etc?

 

[B_Munro]

Well the patterns of colonization certainly wouldn't resemble OTL, nor would anything be a certainty. And every place is likely to look drastically different. I mean let's be honest, if Cortes doesn't conquer the Aztec Empire and all that jazz, what are the chances that the Lake of Mexico will still be drained, mass burnings of books and people to occur, reorganization of society into a caste system, etc?

OTOH, given sustained European contact, the American populations being smacked by the equivalent of several versions of the Black Death is pretty much a given.

Bruce

 

[RGB]

OTOH, given sustained European contact, the American populations being smacked by the equivalent of several versions of the Black Death is pretty much a given.

On one hand, European settlers aren't at hand to immediately exploit it. On the other hand, intermittent epidemics aren't nearly as efficient at conferring resistance as low-level sustained exposure, so we can have the Great Smallpox Eruptions way into the 19th c.