Imagine Hitler died in ww1 - alternate timeline after 1918

yourworstnightmare

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1) ASB, Hitler dying would not create this kind of butterfly effect, since he wasn't important enough during WW1.

2) SPD and Communists working together? No way, the reason the German Communist Revolutions didn't really take of was because the SPD were against them and thus the Working Class were split. You need a PoD that actually deals with the split of the Socialist movement.
 
Friederich Ebert, the leader of the SPD, was devoted to keep the old order or a resemblance of it. About joining hands with the Spartaquists et al, a semtence by him:

"If the Kaiser does not abdicate, the social revolution is inevitable. But I do not want it, I even hate it like sin"
 
Hitler dying in ww1 would change history, but not until 20 years later. As far as the communist taking over anything after ww1 is impossible, as it was only created a year earlier.
 
Hitler being killed in WW1 does only prevent the rise of the NSdAP. Nothing else. The Weimar Republic will still come into existence and the democratic German government will still form an alliance with the anti-democratic German military against the communists. Versailles will also happen in the same way it did in OTL. But there will be no Munich Coup (started by Hitler in OTL). And there will be no "Mein Kampf". No "Anschluss". No "Holocaust". And no Second World War.
 
Hitler being killed in WW1 does only prevent the rise of the NSdAP. Nothing else. The Weimar Republic will still come into existence and the democratic German government will still form an alliance with the anti-democratic German military against the communists. Versailles will also happen in the same way it did in OTL. But there will be no Munich Coup (started by Hitler in OTL). And there will be no "Mein Kampf". No "Anschluss". No "Holocaust". And no Second World War.

The last three are debatable, but the first two are more certain. The last three would depend on the exact events of the intervening 20 years.
 

arlindi193

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What if Hitler dies in a battle of WW1 ?
I have made a alternate timeline about what could have happend.
Any ideas, thoughts they are welcome.

1918 WW1 ends with the peace talks. Army's goe back to their homelands. German, Austrian, Russian troops are frustrated as are also the people of their country's.

1919 german SPD and Communist join forces to make Germany into a socialist state. They seize power andform the German Socialist Republik (GSR). Company's , farms ect are being nationalized. Payments according to the versaille treaty are being stopped.

1920 GSR troops are being send to the eastern borders to attack Poland to help their Russian allies in the Polish Sovjet war that started in 1919. Poland is defeated and spilt up between GSR and CCCP.

1920 France, Belgium, Holland, Denmark Mobilize troops and strengthen their borders.

1920 Civil war in Austria GSR and CCCP support the ASP (Austrian Socialist Party) against their fights for power against the more democratic party's. ASP wins and takes over the country. 31 dec the Anschluss with the GSR is a fact. Austria stops excisting. The new name of the country is United Socialist German Republik (USGR)

1921 Italy, Hungaria and rest of europe mobilize their troops and send they to the borders with USGR/CCCP.

1922 1jan . USGR invades czechoslovakia to return their people home, 2 weeks later czechoslovakia has been annexxed. Hungaria also invades czechoslovakia and takes some territory,

Luxemburg and Switserland are being invaded by the USGR and 4 weeks later they surrender and become a part of the USGR.

1922 march CCCP invades the baltic states and Rumania. Baltic states capitulates after 1 week and rumania war lasts 3 months before thet capitulate.

1922 nov. USGR invades Hungaria and 2 weeks later they capitulate. and in december Hungaria is now Communist is now USHR

1922 ostkantons return to USGR

1922 USGR demaned Elzas Lotharingen back from France. France refuses.
England and US are neutral in this conflict. United league of nations (slow as always) accept a statemant against USGR and CCCP asking them to withdraw to their 1919 borders. As a resrult USGR and CCCp leave the league of nations.

1922 nov USGR and CCCP attack France via the eastern borders. Heavy Casuality's due to gas attacks in city's and by carpet bombing on both sides. Paris overrun in december 1922 France capitulates 31 december 1922.

1923 1 Jan. Française République Socialiste (FRS) founded. Elzas, Lotharingen are part of the USGR now. End of 1923 majority of USGR and CCCP return home and are being demobilized.

1922-1924 Belgium, Holland are in talks of becoming one country again. The new United Kingdom of the Netherlands is being founded on may 15 1924. brussels will be the new capital.

1925 Holland and Denmark demobilize, trade is increasing with the USGR and FRS.

1925 14 july, French troops revolt in Marseille against the FRS, more places follow durig the weeks, Provence, Nizza, Languedoc, Dauphine declare independent and start the Free french republik (FFR)

1925 august civil war between the FRS and FFR , more states join the FFR untill the border is formed by the rivers charente and via clermont ferrant to the rhone. France spilts up between 2 nations the FFR and FSR

1926 Bretange declares independece and after a short but fierce war the Bretange République Indépendante (BRI) has been founded.

1927 FFR and BRI join the league of Nations.

1929 Wall street crash

1930 Swiserland becomes indapendant USGR invades Low Countries and FSR invades FFR

1931 Civil War is Out Break in all in the balkans

1932 Kingdom of Yugoslavia is Now PDSRY People's Democratice Socialist Republic of Yougoslavia

1933 Kingdom of Greece is now PDSRG People Democratice Republic of Greece and PDSRY Changed the Name from Yugoslavia to Serbia PDSRS

1934 Bulgaria is now PDRB Peoples Democratic Republic of Bulgaria

1935 USSR Invades the Baltic and Finland

1936 USSR invades Manchuckuo and Japan and Japan is PRJ Peoples Republic of Japan and in Korea is PDRK People Democratic Republic of Korea

1937 Chechozslovakia is Divided become PSDRB (Peoples Socialist Democratic Republic of Bhoemia and PSRS (Peoples Socialist Republic of Slovakia

1938 PSDRB Sold Sudtenland to USGR

1939 Italy have turned into a Civil war Between Fascist Italy and Communist italy and Republican Spain Wons the Civil war and Franco is Executed and Spain is now a Communist Country USRS and PDSRG and PDSRS invades Albania and DivIDE Albania North to PDSRS and South to PDSRG

1940 PRJ (Japan) invades Phillipines and Communist Italy won the Civil war Mussolini was Executed and Italy is USRI and Portugal is Communist and is now USRP

1941 PRJ (Japan) invades Indonesia and Malaysia and USSR, PRJ, USGR, FSR and USRI Declare War on England and USA. Italy invades Malta, USGR invades Denmark, USSR starts battle of Alaska, PRJ (Japan) starts battle of Pearl Harbor and Stalin starts the World War 2

1942 PRJ won the Battle of Pearl Harbor and invades Hawaii

1943 USSR Capture Anchorage, PRJ Plan an Invaison of Australia and New Zealand, USGR plan an invaison of Britain and ireland

1944 USGR Troops landed on Brighton and Hove in England

1945 USGR Captured London

1945 PSRG and USSR invades turkey and Kurdistan is Liberated Turkey is a Puppet State now called SRT Istanbul, Izmir, Pontus is Part of Greece Istanbul is Renamed Constantinople and Izmir is Renamed Smyrna

1946 USSR win a Victory at Battle of Alaska Alaska IS Part of USSR and USGR Invades Britain and Ireland and Annex it and Takes all of the Colonies of it Execept for India and Pakistan, and israel is liberated by communists and israel is USIR United Socialist Israeli Republic and Jordan is Part of USIR

1947 PRJ captured Northern Australia, India and Pakistan is Indapendant, USIR invades all of Arabian Peninsula

1948 India is in the Outbreak of the Civil War between Union Party of India and Communist India

1949 Comunist China Wins the Civil war the name is PRC

1950 Communist india wins te Civil war Ghandi is Killed and India is PRI, China invades Tibet

1951 PRI invades Pakistan and Burma and PRJ Invades Australia and New Zealand

1952 USSR Invades Persia and Persia Becomes a Puppet State of USSA and Persia is Names USRP and Albania Declare Indapendant and is now Communist is now USAR

1952 USSR Starts an Invasion of Canada and USA. PRC invades Indochina and Siam/Thailand

1953 USSR Captures Yukon, Northwest Territories, British Columbia and Seattle, Oregon Northern California and Noth West America PRJ Sold Indonesia, Malaysia, Australia, Taiwan and New Zealand to PRC

1954 Mexico is Ongiong a Civil war Between Cemocrats and Comuunists

1955 Communist Mexico Captures Mexico City

1956 Comunist Won the Civil War in Mexico and Mexico is USRM

1957 California is Divided North is to USSR the South to USRM and Cuba is Ongoing a Civil war

1958 USRM invades Arizona, New Mexico and Texas, USSR in invades Idaho, Utah, Alberta, Sacwetan, North and South Dakota, Montana, Inuit Territory, Colarado and Big Chunks of Western USA

1959 Communist Cuba Wons the Civil war and Cuba is now USRC

1960 USSR invades Manitoba, Minnesota, Big CHunks of Midwestern USA, Illionois and USSR Captures Chicago, Lousiana

1961 JFK is Elected a Presiident of USA and JFK Declare War on USRC and Plan an invasion of Cuba and Stalin Dies at the age of 82 and Succeded by Nikita Khurschev

1962 Cuba Invades Florida USSR , USSR invades Canada Canada is Surrender to USSR, USSR invades Michigan, Northeast USA but USSR lans an invaisonn of New York City

1963 New York City is Captured By USSR and New York City is Renamed to New Moscow City and Boston is Rename to New Leningrad John F. Kennedy and his families Commited suicide

1964 USSR wons the Battle and the Vicotry in the USA and USA is Surrender to USSR and USSR Create a Puppet Named USSA and new President is Gus Hall

1965 All Latin American Countries is Communist

1966 USSR invades Sweden

1967 USSR invades Norway

1968 Communists Declare Victory OVER THE wORLD AND THE DAWN OF THE COMMUNIST WORLD
 
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