It is entirely possible. Ho Chi Min was an ally of the U.S. during WWII and Ho has a favorable view of the U.S. after citing the Founding Fathers when Vietnam declared independence from France.I would change the US response to Ho Chi Min winning the election in Vietnam in the early 60s. I would like to see the US use trade, aid and diplomacy turn Vietnam into a trading partner or even an ally.
I wonder what the US would look like without a Vietnam War.
I think there would still be some sort of a counterculture since some of it was a reaction to the 1950s social conservatism (caused by the Cold War, and the return to normalcy from the Great Depression and World War II) and the rise of television causing people to see the social injustices clash with 1950s idealism - but it would be a lot less violent and militant and depending on if drugs like LSD are available this alternate counterculture might have more beatnik and mod influence.Without Vietnam, we wouldn't have the counterculture of the 1960s as well as Vietnam War media.
Oh right, there will still be the 1960s rock culture and hippie culture. Jimi Hendrix would still rise to fame in some form.I think there would still be some sort of a counterculture since some of it was a reaction to the 1950s social conservatism (caused by the Cold War, and the return to normalcy from the Great Depression and World War II) and the rise of television causing people to see the social injustices clash with 1950s idealism - but it would be a lot less violent and militant and depending on if drugs like LSD are available this alternate counterculture might have more beatnik and mod influence.
But yeah, say goodbye to OTL’s anti-war songs, because I don’t see a Vietnam equivalent elsewhere since such an insurgency would be easier to put down thanks to the US Navy blocking Soviet/Chinese aid.
The counterculture, as an outgrowth of the beatnik movement and of rock music, was already underway before LBJ turned Vietnam into a major war. The hippies were already in high swing (Haight-Ashbury, Summer of Love), the Beatles were already a sensation (the movie A Hard Day's Night, 1964, and the Beatles' first American concert and their appearances on the Ed Sullivan Show the same year), the first Rolling Stones tour in U.S. (also 1964). amd the increase in college student drug use were already underway before the major anti-Vietnam War protests erupted. I do not deny that there were cultural and political influences between the counterculture and the Vietnam War, but beware of exaggerating the causality.It is entirely possible. Ho Chi Min was an ally of the U.S. during WWII and Ho has a favorable view of the U.S. after citing the Founding Fathers when Vietnam declared independence from France.
Without Vietnam, we wouldn't have the counterculture of the 1960s as well as Vietnam War media.
Oh right, there will still be the 1960s rock culture and hippie culture. Jimi Hendrix would still rise to fame in some form.
Not only will we say goodbye to Fortunate Son or Good Morning Vietnam, but also all Vietnam War pop-culture such as Call of Duty: Black Ops, Apocalypse Now, Delta Force, and We Were Soldiers.
50/50.Would Star Wars be affected as well? I heard that George Lucas was inspired by the Vietnam War when he made it.
Hmm. I'm thinking essentially this except it hits Serbia in 1913 and kills the entirety of the people who plotted organized the Black Hand.The 1908 Tanguska meteor misses Earth in 1908. The slight change in its orbit brings it back to Earth on December 5, 1941. Exploding with 15 megatons of force just four days into the Soviet Union's counter-attack on the German forces outside of Moscow.
The city of Moscow, the Russian counter attack, and the remaining German troops would have been destroyed. Hitler already too weak with his two front war would have been rendered much weaker and the top military leadership of Russia, along with Stalin would have been decapitated. As a bonus, American religious leaders would call it a Christmas miracle and force the end of lend lease to the Soviets, citing the "wrath of God" against the "Godless Communists."