If Vikings go Muslim how would you arabizise Scandinavian names ?

linguistically ? The Bosnians often have the Serbo-Croatian Vic´, which means son (like Mehmedovic´), So could we see things like Mahmudson or Omarson or Emirson ?

How would they develope culturally ? For Example , the Circassian or the Beja people in Sudan had also interesting mixings between their indigenous culture and beliefs and Islam.
 
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linguistically ? The Bosnians often have the Serbo-Croatian Vic´, which means son (like Mehmedovic´), So could we see things like Mahmudson or Omarson or Emirson ?

Possible as Arabic names have Ibn as the patronym equivalent(son of), so would be thing like that too.
 
While a wholesale Islamisation is pretty unlikely, and would almost certainly be contingent on much of Western Europe going Muslim, if the names are Arabized, they're likely to go all the way. IMO. Mohammed ibn Ali, etc.

OTOH, if they're converted to Islam because e.g. the Franks/Gaul are, then what happens THERE will have a major influence.

Also... Arabic names are very complicated. Mohammed ibn Ali, abd Hussein, al-Rashid .... Some of the epithets might stay in Norse. Mohammed ibn Ali al-hreppni (the lucky), say for instance.
 
They probably won't Arabise much in linguistic terms, at least at first. Loanwords, and personal names too, yes. But that's about it, probably.
Think Indonesian as a OTL rough example.
The onomastic structure is unlikely to be changed much, although Arabic personal names would enter the employed stock of common names. You could have, say, Harald Mohammadson. The Arabic names would likely take Norse case inflection and patronimy marking.
An Arabic marker that has chance to make it is the adjectival nisba ending -iyy to indicate origin.
 
Possible as Arabic names have Ibn as the patronym equivalent(son of), so would be thing like that too.

Or they would use the Norse patronymic suffix -son. Come to think of it, some smaller communities (e.g. Aislanda or Juzur Faru) might not introduce European-like surnames at all (we Christians would often mistake their patronymics for surnames, though). Of course, this is very implausible - all the prolonged contact and cultural exchange with other European countries would see to it.
 
As an aside, the chance for the Vikings going Muslim voluntarily is slim; a lot of dietary norms associated to Islam were developed with a very different environment and economy in mind and would be a relatively poor fit to Scandinavian conditions and Norse well-entrenched traditions. Of course, you could always an Islamic school that is able to work around some of these to get a better fit (there are historical parallels in West Africa IOTL, among many other possible examples), but it's hard to see how they could legitimise pork (of course, Scandinavians can survive without it; but they'd renounce an economically productive way to exploit their environment), for instance (alcohol is easier, but perhaps less important). Also, Ramadan diurnal fasting in summer at high latitudes would require some finessing of practicalities (doeable, but takes some work).
 
The big question is: how prominent are the vikings in your Arabian-Muslim setting and how prominent is their culture compared to the Arab-Muslim province/state/empire they are living in.

If we are talking about just a handful of individuals, may be a few trader families or a band of mercenaries settling in a majority Arab state, they will probably just keep their names, but adjust them somehow for Arab spelling. As most of the surnames are patronyms, they might just replace the Scandinavian '-son' with the Arab 'ben' or 'bin'. So Harold Björnson would become Arruld Bin Bijerni. Eventually, they will intermarry with the local population and though at first their offspring will have some 'noncommittal' name that goes well in both Scandinavian and Arab culture such as Achim or Leia. One or two generations later however their ancestry will be largely forgotten and their names will just be whatever is popular in their hometown at that time. So Harold Björnson will become Arruld bin Bijerni. His son will be Al-Frid bin Arruld and his grandson Harun bin Al-Frid. His grand-grandson will have a completely Arab name like Nour bin Harun, but might well be nicknamed Nour the red-haired.

If instead we have a largely self-sufficient community adopting Islam and becoming part of an Arab state, remnants of their culture will remain in their names as well as in their customs. So like in the first scenario, their names will just be adjusted for spelling. We might even see the ending -son stick around in local use, possibly even in official writings as it is now a part of the local Muslim community. Eventually we will see religion seep into the namegiving. Names based on Norse gods such as Thorstig will fall out of fashion and be replaced by names of Islam significance like Muhammed, Bilal or Hassan. (Much like all the Christians and Christinas in Sweden today.) However a larger influence will come from the overlaying culture and fashion and if a name like Suleiman suddenly becomes popular all over the country, their will inevitably be lots of children with that name in the Viking-Arab regions as well. Kind-of like we can today find girls named Ashley in the US as well as Sweden, Kenya, Brazil and Hong-Kong.

(Of course, the opposite can happen as well. A name from the Viking-Muslim towns can become so popular that is will be adopted all over the country and eventually all over the Muslim world. So prepare for some Sulaveig a Mursi in Egypt, named after the famous Viking-Muslim actress Sulaveig al Harunson.)

If the community is large enough, about state-sized, names and culture will largely remain the same at first, but eventually there will be a new culture emerging from mixing the Viking and Arab heritages. So like we now have names like Khemal and Tajif in Turkey, we might end up with names like Stiig and Gudwin in Viking-Arabia.
 
The big question is: how prominent are the vikings in your Arabian-Muslim setting and how prominent is their culture compared to the Arab-Muslim province/state/empire they are living in.

If we are talking about just a handful of individuals, may be a few trader families or a band of mercenaries settling in a majority Arab state, they will probably just keep their names, but adjust them somehow for Arab spelling. As most of the surnames are patronyms, they might just replace the Scandinavian '-son' with the Arab 'ben' or 'bin'. So Harold Björnson would become Arruld Bin Bijerni. Eventually, they will intermarry with the local population and though at first their offspring will have some 'noncommittal' name that goes well in both Scandinavian and Arab culture such as Achim or Leia. One or two generations later however their ancestry will be largely forgotten and their names will just be whatever is popular in their hometown at that time. So Harold Björnson will become Arruld bin Bijerni. His son will be Al-Frid bin Arruld and his grandson Harun bin Al-Frid. His grand-grandson will have a completely Arab name like Nour bin Harun, but might well be nicknamed Nour the red-haired.

If instead we have a largely self-sufficient community adopting Islam and becoming part of an Arab state, remnants of their culture will remain in their names as well as in their customs. So like in the first scenario, their names will just be adjusted for spelling. We might even see the ending -son stick around in local use, possibly even in official writings as it is now a part of the local Muslim community. Eventually we will see religion seep into the namegiving. Names based on Norse gods such as Thorstig will fall out of fashion and be replaced by names of Islam significance like Muhammed, Bilal or Hassan. (Much like all the Christians and Christinas in Sweden today.) However a larger influence will come from the overlaying culture and fashion and if a name like Suleiman suddenly becomes popular all over the country, their will inevitably be lots of children with that name in the Viking-Arab regions as well. Kind-of like we can today find girls named Ashley in the US as well as Sweden, Kenya, Brazil and Hong-Kong.

(Of course, the opposite can happen as well. A name from the Viking-Muslim towns can become so popular that is will be adopted all over the country and eventually all over the Muslim world. So prepare for some Sulaveig a Mursi in Egypt, named after the famous Viking-Muslim actress Sulaveig al Harunson.)

If the community is large enough, about state-sized, names and culture will largely remain the same at first, but eventually there will be a new culture emerging from mixing the Viking and Arab heritages. So like we now have names like Khemal and Tajif in Turkey, we might end up with names like Stiig and Gudwin in Viking-Arabia.


Very interesting analysis. And lol, Iraqi parents name child after famous Viking Mujahadeen :D.
 
It may be better to have Russia go Muslim early on, and convert from there. Probably see pressure to convert from both the Christian west and Muslim east.

Maybe end up with Christianity winning out in Norway at first, but with only Iceland holding out in the long run?
 
It may be better to have Russia go Muslim early on, and convert from there. Probably see pressure to convert from both the Christian west and Muslim east.

Maybe end up with Christianity winning out in Norway at first, but with only Iceland holding out in the long run?

My idea about 'Vikings go Muslim' would be to have a large scale Viking colonialization resulting in a Viking kingdom on the Black Sea, which after inroads made by preachers and overtures from nearby Arab/Muslim empires converts to Islam pretty much like OTL scandinavian Vikings converted to Christianity.
 
My idea about 'Vikings go Muslim' would be to have a large scale Viking colonialization resulting in a Viking kingdom on the Black Sea, which after inroads made by preachers and overtures from nearby Arab/Muslim empires converts to Islam pretty much like OTL scandinavian Vikings converted to Christianity.

More successful Ostrogoths?
 
The big question is: how prominent are the vikings in your Arabian-Muslim setting and how prominent is their culture compared to the Arab-Muslim province/state/empire they are living in.

If we are talking about just a handful of individuals, may be a few trader families or a band of mercenaries settling in a majority Arab state, they will probably just keep their names, but adjust them somehow for Arab spelling. As most of the surnames are patronyms, they might just replace the Scandinavian '-son' with the Arab 'ben' or 'bin'. So Harold Björnson would become Arruld Bin Bijerni. Eventually, they will intermarry with the local population and though at first their offspring will have some 'noncommittal' name that goes well in both Scandinavian and Arab culture such as Achim or Leia. One or two generations later however their ancestry will be largely forgotten and their names will just be whatever is popular in their hometown at that time. So Harold Björnson will become Arruld bin Bijerni. His son will be Al-Frid bin Arruld and his grandson Harun bin Al-Frid. His grand-grandson will have a completely Arab name like Nour bin Harun, but might well be nicknamed Nour the red-haired.

If instead we have a largely self-sufficient community adopting Islam and becoming part of an Arab state, remnants of their culture will remain in their names as well as in their customs. So like in the first scenario, their names will just be adjusted for spelling. We might even see the ending -son stick around in local use, possibly even in official writings as it is now a part of the local Muslim community. Eventually we will see religion seep into the namegiving. Names based on Norse gods such as Thorstig will fall out of fashion and be replaced by names of Islam significance like Muhammed, Bilal or Hassan. (Much like all the Christians and Christinas in Sweden today.) However a larger influence will come from the overlaying culture and fashion and if a name like Suleiman suddenly becomes popular all over the country, their will inevitably be lots of children with that name in the Viking-Arab regions as well. Kind-of like we can today find girls named Ashley in the US as well as Sweden, Kenya, Brazil and Hong-Kong.

(Of course, the opposite can happen as well. A name from the Viking-Muslim towns can become so popular that is will be adopted all over the country and eventually all over the Muslim world. So prepare for some Sulaveig a Mursi in Egypt, named after the famous Viking-Muslim actress Sulaveig al Harunson.)

If the community is large enough, about state-sized, names and culture will largely remain the same at first, but eventually there will be a new culture emerging from mixing the Viking and Arab heritages. So like we now have names like Khemal and Tajif in Turkey, we might end up with names like Stiig and Gudwin in Viking-Arabia.

Maybe the Iranian word Khan is exported as a loanword to them , too . Than there could be name combinations with Khan. Would be interesting whats the future of the term Jarl.
 
What about North African corsairs conquering Iceland instead of just rading it?

Do you know the population numbers of Iceland during the Middle Ages ? How many Corsairs could these Saracen raiding ships contain ? Maybe its a gradual process with more and more Saracens staying on Iceland to catch slaves. The local Norse population looses hope, abandons Christianity and convert in fear of the slavers and compliance with them. So Iceland becomes islamized with local myth and spiritual folklore still intermingeling with the predmoninatly religion.
 
Its an intriguing notion, but what would be their motivation? The strategic position is poor, at least OTL, the climate terrible from their viewpoint, and the land dirt poor, with slaves as the only resource.
 
Its an intriguing notion, but what would be their motivation? The strategic position is poor, at least OTL, the climate terrible from their viewpoint, and the land dirt poor, with slaves as the only resource.

Well, maybe as a basis for further raiding operations West ?
 
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