If they will not meet us on the open sea (a Trent TL)

21 November - 27 December 1862

Saphroneth

Banned
21 November

The committee on firearms determines to adopt the Snider-Enfield, on account of its excellent qualities as a firearm. Parliament is not in session at this date, barring the occasional special session, so it is not possible to make the decision official as of yet; however, there is considerable money left in the Vote from the last parliament which will now not be needed and some of this is for weapons procurement.
Making use of this, the committee orders twenty thousand Sniders to be manufactured as soon as possible, with the intent to expand the order to at least the whole Regular Army in the next session of parliament. Orders are also placed for Snider ammunition, both in waxed-paper and metallic form, for subsidiary trials to take place later (the Snider will be adopted, the main question is whether the metallic cartridges are worthwhile).


26 November

There is a sudden general mobilization ordered in Prussia, calling out the Landwehr of both the old (un-retrained) and new classes. The results are mixed - the mobilization was ordered for concentration on the Baltic coast to repel a possible Swedish attack, and organizational chaos spreads (though the currently-in-training Landwehr are quite fast to react, brigaded as they are with the regular army).

27 November
The Royal Navy makes large orders of Palliser shells. The intent is to replace all cannonballs or solid bolts in use for anti armour weapons as soon as possible, as the Palliser shell has shown itself to be equal or superior in all roles (though it is more expensive, which is why smaller cannon will retain their solid shot until replaced with Armstrong guns or other weapons)

29 November

It is announced to the Prussian people that there is, in fact, no Swedish threat. This had already become obvious from the frank confusion on the part of the Swedes, and they are somewhat relieved to discover they had not accidentally insulted Prussia.
The exercise was intended to test the mobilization rate of the new system, though the results are inconclusive as the new system's rollout was incomplete. It does, however, prove that the Landwehr currently undergoing their refresher courses can deploy at least as much manpower to the frontiers in the first few days of an emergency as the plan to expand the regular army (though noble officers complain that the resultant troops are of a lower quality).


2 December
Tests are performed on the Glatton along with a trio of older gunboats from the Crimean period (the Beacon, Swinger and Mistletoe) against undersea mines. The ships are all modified to add a double-bottom, as a simulation of the defences against mines built into current ironclad classes and the intended mine-sweeping vessels currently under construction.

A wide variety of tests take place, with the four hapless ships subjected to everything from being pulled through contact minefields (which are of varying ages, from days to months, though fitted with only a small charge) to progressively larger charges detonated near their keels.
Against smaller mines, the double bottom tends to protect against a single charge but can rupture (thus meaning the ship must retire) while against larger charges the explosion can cause collapse of both the outer and inner hull.
Of note is the trial of mine nets on the Swinger, which are awkward but which do somewhat reduce the danger by keeping a tethered mine from coming right up against the hull.

The Glatton is ultimately sunk by a large charge exploded almost directly under her keel, which produces the unexpected effect of causing her back to break. This is noted carefully!


7 December
Coronation of Emperor Maximilian I of the (second) Mexican Empire, a grand affair. Quite a lot of the troops present are French, though they do wear cockades in Mexican colours to try to make things look less heavy handed.


15 December

Chicago submits a formal bid for consideration as the next Capital of the United States. Included in the bid are plans for fortification of the Straits of Mackinac, although it is not precisely clear whether Michigan was consulted on these plans.


18 December

A large shipment of good modern rifles is smuggled into Congress Poland. They are something of a mix - Enfields, Belgian rifles, French Minie rifles - but all are quite good quality. (There are enough that the Union of six months ago would be highly jealous.)


22 December
It is becoming increasingly clear to the Mexican Conservative faction that they have somehow found an excessively liberal Habsburg to become their autocratic Emperor.
Some of them have the grace to blame themselves.

27 December
The USS Dictator is laid down in the United States. The decision to lay down an ironclad intended to be a world-beater so soon is bold, but driven partly by the fact that California gold and Nevada silver are at last flowing again. Lancaster has escorted what amounts to a more modern version of a Treasure Fleet around the Americas, and the influx of hard cash (including nearly a year's arrears) goes a long way to helping the United States start getting back on an even keel.
 
Last edited:

Saphroneth

Banned
Is that the OTL USS Dictator? (I can't believe they chose that name)
Basically, though delayed somewhat. (Puritan is to follow, quite soon actually, and will be the OTL Puritan though not live up to her predicted performance numbers.)

The name Dictator was Ericsson's idea, for the record.
 

Saphroneth

Banned
Must have miss the battles can you write a story only thread when you finish the timeline
I'm almost wondering how you're reading the thread, I'm afraid - all the timeline bits are in a different format.
It IS a pity we don't have threadmarks on this site.
 
One thought I did have which is almost certainly completely ridiculous would be if, after the peace treaty was signed, the USA asked Britain for a loan on favourable terms explicitly to fund an abolition programme.
I suspect you could get the Brits to agree to such a loan, especially if it were secured.
Rather than offering it to the British government, they could offer it directly to the British public. There are a number of charities to which the British contributed historically (Lancashire Distress Fund, Freedmen's Aid Society, Confederate Prisoners) which won't be required ITTL, leaving money floating round that could be used to fund emancipation. The US government has been borrowing at 6% and 7% to fund the war, but might be able to float an emancipation loan in Britain at about 4%. It could even secure it against the revenues of the Morrill tariff, so that the money raised by British imports would ultimately come back to Britain after helping free the slaves.

Worth a thought, anyway.
 
Rather than offering it to the British government, they could offer it directly to the British public. There are a number of charities to which the British contributed historically (Lancashire Distress Fund, Freedmen's Aid Society, Confederate Prisoners) which won't be required ITTL, leaving money floating round that could be used to fund emancipation. The US government has been borrowing at 6% and 7% to fund the war, but might be able to float an emancipation loan in Britain at about 4%. It could even secure it against the revenues of the Morrill tariff, so that the money raised by British imports would ultimately come back to Britain after helping free the slaves.

Worth a thought, anyway.
Interesting thought.
Note that the 6-7% figures are OTL, and with the far worse shape the Union is in iTTL, they're probably lucky to get a loan at much twice the price.
 
31 December 1862 - 23 January 1863

Saphroneth

Banned
31 December

Debate begins over the Wheeling Triangle - the small section of Virginia north of the Mason-Dixon Line which is to go to the Union - and over whether Maryland should be joined with Delaware.
At about the same time, similar discussion is going on about the Missouri Strip - the current arguments for incorporating it into Arkansas are doing well.


2 January, 1863
The Spirit of Carolina leaves Charleston, making for Wydah in Dahomey. She is not carrying very much in the way of cargo.

4 January
Aleksandr Wielopolski, head of civil administration for Congress Poland, has known about the increasing unrest in Poland for months. As part of an attempt to head it off (and thus achieve reform for the Polish position within the Russian Empire, something he has been hoping for for decades), he takes the drastic measure of ordering the conscription of all young Polish activists into the Russian Army.
If conscripted, these young men would not be civilians until the year 1883 - Russian army conscription is for two decades - and the news spreads like wildfire.


9 January
At an urgent crisis meeting in an estate, representatives of the Polish "White" and "Red" factions discuss the unrest. There is considerable tension, but if there is one conclusion that comes out of the discussion it is that the factions must control the uprising or it will happen without them - with Wielopolski's decision, reform is probably impossible now.
A date is agreed on, which is deliberately just long enough for the news to spread and preparations to be made... and which also happens to be a symbolic date, though by the nature of such things there are symbolic dates all over the calendar. The date's description, in code, is "Seventy years".


13 January
James Mason is formally appointed ambassador to the Court of King James after a much-appreciated winter at home. He will travel there on the Alabama, as the Confederacy does not yet have any other large ships capable of cruising (the Charleston is in the dockyards being reconstructed).
Any attempt to wow the British population with the Alabama is onto a hiding to nothing as the ship was originally built there.

14 January

The four great ironclad frigates of the American War - Warrior, Black Prince, Defence and Resistance - sail into Portsmouth. Their armour is visibly battered with shot in many cases, and they are met as returning heroes.

16 January

In a speech, the Duke of Cambridge stresses the importance of a standing army for a colonial power such as the United Kingdom. He makes the point that, if the army were 50,000 men smaller, then the crisis reinforcement to Canada would have been impossible and the war would have likely been lost (an exaggeration, but not much of one).


18 January

Mass demobilization in the Americas - Canadian militia, Confederate troops and Union troops are being disbanded and sent home. They have been for months, but this day is the peak of the trend.

20 January

The second tranche of defence guns arrive in Hawaii, making Pearl Harbour a much more difficult prospect to attack. The test firing impresses Kamehameha IV, though he is somewhat amused by a vent piece blowout at an inopportune time.


23 January

Uprisings break out all across Poland. In truth the influence of the Reds and the Whites on procedings has been minor up to this point, but they did manage to ensure the rage came to a head all across the country at roughly the same time.

Of much greater importance is the issue of weapons - by the afternoon, at least two thousand Polish rebels are armed with rifles more modern than the Russian Army, and several thousand more will follow over the next few days.



EDIT: moved Mason's appointment here.
 
Last edited:
A date is agreed on, which is deliberately just long enough for the news to spread and preparations to be made... and which also happens to be a symbolic date, though by the nature of such things there are symbolic dates all over the calendar. The date's description, in code, is "Seventy years".

23 January

Uprisings break out all across Poland.
What is the 'symbolic date' for 23 January? I googled 23 January Poland, and mostly got lottery results....
Ah.... Got it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Partition_of_Poland#Partition said:
Partition[edit]
On 23 January 1793 Prussia signed a treaty with Russia, agreeing that Polish reforms would be revoked and both countries would receive chunks of Commonwealth territory.[3]
 

Saphroneth

Banned
Yes. It's one day off the OTL uprising date, but I felt they could probably hold the Polish rebellion an extra day with the promise of what essentially turned out to be enough guns to arm a small division.
 
25 January - 15 February 1863

Saphroneth

Banned
25 January

Frederick III and his cabinet debate the Polish uprising. Some of the conservative faction want to supply as much aid as possible to the Russians to aid in stamping out the dangerous revolt in Congress Poland, but Frederick - much more a child of the liberal era - declines. Instead, he instructs that for now the position that should be taken is that this is a matter between Poland and Russia - an important point as this in fact holds that Poland is a distinct entity from Russia itself.


28 January

After seeking and getting individual (and often reluctant) ratification from the state governments of California, Maine, Maryland, Michigan, Minnesota, Missouri, New York and Washington, the United States formally ratifies the Treaty of Havana. This also officially removes those states which entirely seceded from the Union.
Several major tasks remain to be completed, including the readjustment of senator classes (in which Maryland in particular is likely to get the short end of the stick as it has been cut in half) and the wholesale transference of the United States government to the city which will now host it - something which has not yet been decided upon, and indeed it has been so contentious that a bill has been passed declaring Philadelphia as the temporary capital of the United States until such time as the new permanent capital has been selected.


29 January
James Mason arrives in the United Kingdom. The process of accepting his credentials will take some ten to twelve days.


2 February
The uprising in the western Russian Empire spreads to the former Grand Duchy of Lithuania. Armouries are looted, officials executed, and a group of peasants armed with scythes is run down and massacred by a squadron of Russian hussars. Čysta Būda becomes something of a bloody shirt.


7 Feburary

Clashes escalate between the Polish rebels and the Russian troops. One of the important side effects of the modern rifles that have entered the country is that - while in relatively short supply, at only a few thousand - they will take captured powder, their special minie bullets can be made with a mold put together by most any competent blacksmith and a supply of lead (such as captured bullets) and - most importantly of all - they are essentially sniper weapons by contrast to the armament of the Russian army (a musket with a Nessler ball can reach out accurately about half as far as a Minie rifle, and a round ball is significantly worse).
This, coupled with the local terrain familiarity of the rebels, has led to some extremely hard-to-handle guerilla warfare being prosecuted by the Polish rebels armed with their new rifles. While the campaign is only beginning at this point, it is already becoming demoralizing for Russian infantry (around half of whom were in the army at the time of the Crimea) to be fired upon from outside their own effective range.


11 February

Due to the social in addition to national dimensions of the Polish uprising, sympathy is being engendered across Europe. The debate on whether to adopt a more "national" or more "liberal" direction to the uprising is fierce among the Reds and the Whites - who have the ability to actually discuss it now, as it is becoming clear that any Russian victory will be hard-fought.
Attempting to take lessons from the Confederate independence is hard to say the least.

News of Union ratification arrives in the United Kingdom.

Mason is accepted as ambassador to the Court of King James.


15 February

The Spirit of Carolina runs into HMS Archer, a Royal Navy corvette, about twenty miles south-east of Cape Three Point. Spirit of Carolina's captain is initially cordial, though his attitude very abruptly changes when the Archer orders him to heave-to for search.
An argument takes place via speaking cone and flag hoist, at which Archer's captain (John Bythesea) is unimpressed by the arguments made by the Spirit's captain - for a number of reasons, including the smell.

After several long minutes, Archer fires a shot across the bows of the Spirit to force her to stop, and the Spirit is boarded.
Almost immediately, Bythesea's suspicions are confirmed - Spirit is a slaver, and currently carries a cargo of nearly six hundred Africans purchased as slaves from the Dahomey area.
Spirit's captain protests the illegality of the boarding - less forcefully than before, as there are now rifles pointed not quite at him - and stresses that the boarding is as illegal as the Trent affair. He can only watch as Archer's crew frees every single slave, apparently preferring to leave the matter of legality to the courts.



EDIT: moved Mason's arrival here and made the timing explicit.
 
Last edited:
Several major tasks remain to be completed, including the readjustment of senator classes (in which Maryland in particular is likely to get the short end of the stick as it has been cut in half) and the wholesale transference of the United States government to the city which will now host it - something which has not yet been decided upon, and indeed it has been so contentious that a bill has been passed declaring Philadelphia as the temporary capital of the United States until such time as the new permanent capital has been selected.
I assume the capital will remain at Philadelphia? After all, when it comes to government, there is nothing so permanent as a temporary measure.

Glad to see the Confederates will have their slave trading discouraged.
 

Saphroneth

Banned
Quite possibly the capital will remain there until the first hint of a war scare, at which point the Federal government remembers that Rivers Mean Gunboats. :p
 
Top