Ruler of the Grass Ocean, about a young boy whose family was driven out into the wilderness who lays the seeds for one of the greatest empires the world has ever seen. It has many imitators, one of the most famous being Veldt Crusher.
If they were Fictional
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Many years ago there was an ASB TL here that retold World War 2 as a giant televised WWF wrestling match. Norma Jean (Marilyn Monroe) and Ghandi were among the TV hosts. It was a lot of fun, but unfortunately didn't go on much past Yamamoto attacking FDR with a folding steel chair.
Sounds like it might be "Wings of Honneamise" (1987). The lead character isn't a kid though.
Yeah that's it.Sounds like it might be "Wings of Honneamise" (1987). The lead character isn't a kid though.
You mean it isn't already?
Not really, like... at all? The rebellion against the Empire was an insurgency not an independence movement.
The idea of rebels at all as the heroes I think can partly be traced back to the ARW.
Even earlier I would say.
Sympathy for the underdog did not start with American War of Independence.
Actually, George Lucas went on record as saying that Star Wars was his take on the Vietnam War. The Rebels were the Viet Cong and the overtly militarized and corrupt Empire was inspired by Nixon's America.
Speaking of Vietnam, it could be a lot of different stories:
- A triumph of evil versus good due to the incompetence and mismanagement of 'good' and the internal divisions and lack of unity 'good' had.
- A poignant tragedy about the pointlessness of war as two pretty shitty regimes (the communist NVA and the succession of terrible dictatorships in the south) forcing their peoples to destroy their nation.
- An epic saga of Imperial Overstretch and Hubris, centering as much on the White House as the battlefields of Indochina.
- A plucky band of rebels against an overbearing foreign hegemonic empire
- Well-intentioned rebels (the vietcong) being forced to extremes and to accept help from questionable sources (North Vietnam, China, the USSR)
- A well-intentioned regime being forced to work with unappealing allies to fight what they see as a greater and far worse enemy
The Crimson Tide
A dark introspective series that showcases the fall of an old and ancient empire, only to be reforged in the name of Communist equality. The viewer is shown how human greed corrupts the idealistic "Socialist Utopia", and showcases how the Soviet Union is transformed into a one-party dictatorship, no better than the previous Russian Empire. The series eventually ends on a cliff-hanger as Nazi Germany invades the Union. Main characters are Trotsky, Stalin, Lenin, and the Supreme Soviet as a supporting character.
Eternal Struggle
Follows a member of the German SDP starting in 1918 to 1934. The series focuses on this member as he eventually joins the KPD to fight for a communist Germany in opposition to various right-wing groups, only to find that their internal political bickering has led to something even worse coming out of Germany's hatred. The series ends with the main character being shot on Kristallnacht. Main characters include our protagonist, various SDP and KDP members, Walter Ulbricht and Wilhelm Pieck. Hitler is only referenced in news articles, with his only onscreen appearance being his speech at Hindenburg's funeral.
A dark introspective series that showcases the fall of an old and ancient empire, only to be reforged in the name of Communist equality. The viewer is shown how human greed corrupts the idealistic "Socialist Utopia", and showcases how the Soviet Union is transformed into a one-party dictatorship, no better than the previous Russian Empire. The series eventually ends on a cliff-hanger as Nazi Germany invades the Union. Main characters are Trotsky, Stalin, Lenin, and the Supreme Soviet as a supporting character.
Eternal Struggle
Follows a member of the German SDP starting in 1918 to 1934. The series focuses on this member as he eventually joins the KPD to fight for a communist Germany in opposition to various right-wing groups, only to find that their internal political bickering has led to something even worse coming out of Germany's hatred. The series ends with the main character being shot on Kristallnacht. Main characters include our protagonist, various SDP and KDP members, Walter Ulbricht and Wilhelm Pieck. Hitler is only referenced in news articles, with his only onscreen appearance being his speech at Hindenburg's funeral.
Having had any updates in awhile but I will say that if Germany is not the main character, then a story about World War II would actually probably be better than a series about the others. I mean a story following a family or lovers separated by the Berlin Wall and then reunited when it comes down would also be pretty good I bet.
2020.
An "disaster" film but it's actually more like Uncut Gems where it's just 90% unnecessary tension and the subject itself is rather unspectacular.
A serial covering the Balkan front of WW2 which I guess would be something like a really dark and edgy Mandalorian. You know, with the mass murder via being thrown into sinkholes and pits alive, mass butchering of children etc etc. Would be extremely controversial and basically treated like OTL Serbian Film
An "disaster" film but it's actually more like Uncut Gems where it's just 90% unnecessary tension and the subject itself is rather unspectacular.
A serial covering the Balkan front of WW2 which I guess would be something like a really dark and edgy Mandalorian. You know, with the mass murder via being thrown into sinkholes and pits alive, mass butchering of children etc etc. Would be extremely controversial and basically treated like OTL Serbian Film
Soldier of Destiny
A child of low nobility is abandoned by his father in a military school. Without knowing it yet, his entire life will be a bloody struggle to try to change his irremediable destiny: To be a more forgotten man in an ocean of successes and failures. The series has a bittersweet ending that makes us wonder if in the end it was able to achieve its goal, failed it, or if it was always a puppet unable to change its own course of action.
A child of low nobility is abandoned by his father in a military school. Without knowing it yet, his entire life will be a bloody struggle to try to change his irremediable destiny: To be a more forgotten man in an ocean of successes and failures. The series has a bittersweet ending that makes us wonder if in the end it was able to achieve its goal, failed it, or if it was always a puppet unable to change its own course of action.
1940
The book starts with the unlikely defeat of the world’s biggest army by plucky little Finland, moves into the ludicrous simultaneous invasion of Norway by both sides at once, slides casually into a massive assault on Europe’s strongest army supported by the world’s most motorised army that is somehow suckered out of position then cut off.
The defeated British army is pulled from the northern coast by an improvised Armada put together without foreshadowing of any kind and obviously only used to get the writer out of his self inflicted cul-de-sac. Italy attacks even though they are obviously completely unprepared and France then surrenders despite still having most of their empire, army, navy and airforce.
Germany then looks round and realises they had no way to invade Britain so launch an air attack that fails because Britain ‘Coincidentally’ had introduced a new technology “RADAR”, produced two excellent aircraft in enormous numbers AND had the support of amazing pilots from occupied countries who somehow managed to make their way to Britain!
Italy invades Egypt stops almost at once and waits around until a small plucky British force takes 133000 prisoners 400 tanks. Before this is sorted Italy also invades Greece and a plucky defence (seeing a pattern here?) throws them back into Albania.
And I haven’t even mentioned the bases for destroyers subplot!
The book starts with the unlikely defeat of the world’s biggest army by plucky little Finland, moves into the ludicrous simultaneous invasion of Norway by both sides at once, slides casually into a massive assault on Europe’s strongest army supported by the world’s most motorised army that is somehow suckered out of position then cut off.
The defeated British army is pulled from the northern coast by an improvised Armada put together without foreshadowing of any kind and obviously only used to get the writer out of his self inflicted cul-de-sac. Italy attacks even though they are obviously completely unprepared and France then surrenders despite still having most of their empire, army, navy and airforce.
Germany then looks round and realises they had no way to invade Britain so launch an air attack that fails because Britain ‘Coincidentally’ had introduced a new technology “RADAR”, produced two excellent aircraft in enormous numbers AND had the support of amazing pilots from occupied countries who somehow managed to make their way to Britain!
Italy invades Egypt stops almost at once and waits around until a small plucky British force takes 133000 prisoners 400 tanks. Before this is sorted Italy also invades Greece and a plucky defence (seeing a pattern here?) throws them back into Albania.
And I haven’t even mentioned the bases for destroyers subplot!
Lucas was going for a Vietnam allegory with shades of WWII air combat. He'd be more explicit about it in ROTJ.