Would France even allow the US to military intervene in Algeria given it was considered an integrated part of France.
Given relations between De Gaulle and the Americans, probably not.
Would France even allow the US to military intervene in Algeria given it was considered an integrated part of France.
But then they would directly confront the Soviets and it wouldn't t be a proxy war anymore.Afghanistan in the 80s
South and North yemen. Or Congo in the 60es.This came about as a random thought to help others looking for a Vietnam equivalent in a timeline where it never happens. PoD doesn't matter, just that America and its allies never get into a war with Vietnam in the mid-1960s-70s.
I've already talked with a couple friends, but we could only think of Angola. And justifying that would be hell of a lot harder, and probably see even more backlash, than Vietnam.
Any other proxy wars in Cold War battlegrounds that could see American involvement?
EDIT: Here's the criteria.
- Has to have suitable terrain for a prolonged guerrilla conflict.
- Allows for large supply of Soviet and Warsaw Pact aid.
- Will have US involvement beginning in the 1960s and escalating until full-scale war by the start of the 1970s.
- The US always has to withdraw by the mid-1970s, having lost the war at home.
- Results in massive anti-war protests in the US.
Are you planning for a massive Korean war analogue where one Iran tries to conquer the other but the war becomes a bloody stalemate? If the great powers sign a ceasefire to avoid a nuclear escalation, this could limit Communists attempts at reunification to support for guerrillas in the South.Thank you for the detailed explanation, and mentioning that crucial aspect I've missed. I'll take it into consideration - Iran is looking a better candidate now.
Now regarding Iran, possibly the PoD would the 1946 crisis ending in a Soviet-occupied Northern Iran with the Azerbaijan People's Republic still existing, which later has Northern Iran becoming an Iranian People's Republic, and the Anglo-American-backed Shah in the south.
Are you planning for a massive Korean war analogue where one Iran tries to conquer the other but the war becomes a bloody stalemate? If the great powers sign a ceasefire to avoid a nuclear escalation, this could limit Communists attempts at reunification to support for guerrillas in the South.
However, I don't know if Iran has the terrain for conventional tank warfare, or what a realistic DMZ would be to create two states large enough to be viable.
The dual state building of the Irans would be interesting to watch. One Iran may end up emphasizing Iran's Shia muslim identity, while the other Iran emphasizes the cultural heritage of Iran's pre-Islamic Persian Empires. In the early '70s the Shah held extravagant festivities in Persepolis marking 2,500 years of the Iranian monarchy. He portrayed himself and the Pahlavi dynasty as the latest part of a lineage going back to Cyrus the Great and the Achaemenid Empire.That's one option. The other one is a complete American withdrawal and the subsequent collapse of the Shah, mimicking OTL Vietnam.
Mass starvation was pretty horrible.I can't see why the US would do that, considering the ever-lessening strategic importance of Ethiopia at the time - I might see it happening if the new Ethiopian government's radicals do something horrid enough with the US Embassy to trigger an American invasion.
While this is true, you still didn’t see the US intervene militarily during the famine in the 1980s and attempt to remove the Derg from power.Mass starvation was pretty horrible.