If the Third Plane hits the White House?

Doubt it changes the War on Terror by a considerable margin, though Democrats and Republicans may be a little more united than OTL. And Bush could be a bit more aggressive in his rhetoric against the Taliban.
 
Wasn't Cheney in the White House on 9/11?
I believe he was in the PEOC Bunker at the time along with others in the Bush Administration. It was built to withstand a nuclear hit, so I think that he and the others would survive. Would be a very awe inspiring sight for them to emerge from the bunker to the rubble and devestation.
 
I believe he was in the PEOC Bunker at the time along with others in the Bush Administration. It was built to withstand a nuclear hit, so I think that he and the others would survive. Would be a very awe inspiring sight for them to emerge from the bunker to the rubble and devestation.
Thanks for clearing that up.
 
Maybe he would have gone down to the bunkers?
Would they survive a 757 slamming into them at high speed?

If we're working under the assumption it's United 93, that's a 757-200 going at it's top speed....

Assuming we're near Max Takeoff Weight, looking more like 245Klb, going at it's top speed, that's 571MPH....

That is a lot of joules slamming into the WH. 3,760,395,749.9789 joules or so.
 
Would they survive a 757 slamming into them at high speed?

If we're working under the assumption it's United 93, that's a 757-200 going at it's top speed....

Assuming we're near Max Takeoff Weight, looking more like 245Klb, going at it's top speed, that's 571MPH....

That is a lot of joules slamming into the WH. 3,760,395,749.9789 joules or so.
How much would a nuclear hit be? Obviously not directly to the White House, but let's say the Capitol or nearby.
 
Would they survive a 757 slamming into them at high speed?

If we're working under the assumption it's United 93, that's a 757-200 going at it's top speed....

Assuming we're near Max Takeoff Weight, looking more like 245Klb, going at it's top speed, that's 571MPH....

That is a lot of joules slamming into the WH. 3,760,395,749.9789 joules or so.
(If we're talking specifically about a bunker) isn't a bunker going to be below ground level, and so not going to have the majority (or indeed any) of the force of direct impact directed at it?
 
Let's see, 1 megatonne's about 4.184 petajoules....

The House could theoretically survive.
That's if the Capitol Building is hit by a Nuke?

My idea is that if the bunker can withstand a Nuclear hit to Washington, then it could withstand a direct hit by plane.
 
Not sure how to do joules, as I'm clueless at Physics. A direct nuclear hit of 2 Megatons is something like 10000 PSI. That ring of destruction includes all of the White House. How much PSI would it be if the third plane hit it?
Hey, I had to find some online calcs and use the statistics from the 757-200 and make a lot of assumptions.

My guess is close to that, but not quite the same. The bunker in DC isn't rated to take a direct hit from a nuke, it's meant more of a salve to someone's peace of mind then anything.

That's not to say it ain't tough, but in this case, I ain't betting on a lot of survivors in there.
 
That's not to say it ain't tough, but in this case, I ain't betting on a lot of survivors in there.
And likely even if it wasn't that bad, think of all the rubble that would have to be cleared to get entrance to the bunker, albeit the White House isn't as massive as the WTC, but it's still pretty big. Most likely the survivours would die to suffocation when the air runs out.
 

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I believe he was in the PEOC Bunker at the time along with others in the Bush Administration. It was built to withstand a nuclear hit, so I think that he and the others would survive. Would be a very awe inspiring sight for them to emerge from the bunker to the rubble and devestation.
Can you imagine that experience?

Yikes!
 

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Hey, I had to find some online calcs and use the statistics from the 757-200 and make a lot of assumptions.

My guess is close to that, but not quite the same. The bunker in DC isn't rated to take a direct hit from a nuke, it's meant more of a salve to someone's peace of mind then anything.

That's not to say it ain't tough, but in this case, I ain't betting on a lot of survivors in there.
No one has ever admitted what the WH bunker is designed to withstand. The best you can find is "survive a "near miss" from a 25mT weapon". The odds are you could survive a direct hit from a jetliner without much difficulty. Supplies, including bottled air, for 30 days would be pretty much an automatic, although far longer would be anything but a surprise. The Secret Service and DoD are nothing if not excessively paranoid.
 

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Would the White House be rebuilt the same as before or would a memorial be built in its place instead?
 
Would the White House be rebuilt the same as before or would a memorial be built in its place instead?
Rebuilt. No need to turn make an enormous tombstone in the middle of the capital. Besides, where else would they put the President's house?
 

ben0628

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Rebuilt. No need to turn make an enormous tombstone in the middle of the capital. Besides, where else would they put the President's house?

The president has multiple properties, such as Camp David, Blair House, Trowbridge House, and the Presidential Townhouse.
 
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