I was thinking it could possibly have The CSA on the Allies Side and the USA on the Central Powers side if Germany does not do any unrestricted Submarine warfare.
Consdering how utterly chaotic the events leading to the First World War where and considering that many of the main players were toddlers/fetuses/twinkles in their parents eyes when the ACW took place, it's probably very unlikely that we anything like our First World War taking place with this major PoD.
Well.. it had been argued that the ACW was a somewhat 'minor' thing in the planetary current order... effects contained to the USA and arorund. The Franco-prussian war had more effects...
But you have a good point indeed.
Hey there, I am of course not a lost cause guy or anything.
Granted, I can be irritating vague, but the importance of ACW in the world may be exagerated. It's an inner conflict whose consequences are kept more to the Americas, and a conflict like the Franco-Prussian one seem by factors as the french colonial empire and imperialism, the prussian-german might, etc, more important.
If the South won, at first the changes are not huge for the global system. It depends on things as if it survive, how it alignate, etc, etc.
The USA took time to reach the heights they are-where in. The USA have no special destiny per se. Just advantages.
Calm down.
The Lost Causers' getting their 'Southern Way of Life' means a re-write of 20C. Forget World War I. Forget the Nazi's being slowly worn down. Forget our species getting to the moon. Forget the freaking Internet we write this on. So much of the 20C is the story of the incredible economic might of North America under one power, one set of laws. It changes everything, with butterflies unimaginable.
I kind of always thought even if Britain and France helped the South out during the Civil War, that an alliance between them would eventually grow to be impossible. OTL's Confederate leaders were already drawing up plans for conquering a lot of Mexico and the Caribbean. Britain isn't going to be happy with Confederate filibusterers in the Caribbean, especially since they expand slavery with every nation they conquer. With the French, the reason they were tempted to support the Confederacy was so they could establish their puppet empire in Mexico, this is going to get awkward when the French realize that their new buddies in Richmond have some designs on Mexican territory of their own.
So, I could envision maybe after France and Britain sit the CSA down and tell them to cut it out maybe the CSA starts looking for new friends. Berlin-Richmond Express anybody?
That's enough butterfly-killing to get you prosecuted at The Hague. (1)
Seriously though, the American Civil War was a decade before German unification. That might not seem like much, but it's enough to throw off the timeline so much that there might not even be a world war, at least in the first half of the 20th Century.
Paralleling OTL events is one of the biggest cliches in alternate history. I don't recommend it.
You can probably forget the Nazis even being a thing. With all those butterflies swimming about we might see a Russo-German alliance with American backing in WWI against the motly crew of Britain, France, Austria, the Ottomans, and Japan. Meanwhile the CSA tries to avoid civil war.
The collapse of the CSA in the 1890s or early 1900s after the global drop in silver and cotton prices and the boll weevil reaching the CSA would certainly have an effect on global politics, mostly with the US having to undergo Reconstruction later than in OTL.
YES, Brazil was a Slave Power, and Britain never went to war to destroy it. But its another matter if they had gone to war to SAVE it.![]()
The decrepit monarchies/aristocracies in Europe had seen the technology of modern warfare eclipse their abilities to control them. The belief in quick wars when facing the gauntlet of massed machine gun fire is pretty good proof of that.
When since Napoleon had been defeated had German Powers been on the same side as Russia?
I was thinking it could possibly have The CSA on the Allies Side and the USA on the Central Powers side if Germany does not do any unrestricted Submarine warfare.
"Monarchy" is an even stranger term for Third Republic France, perhaps one of the staunchest believers in a quick war, or - dare I say it - the United States?Decrepit? Seriously? An odd choice of words for Victorian Britain, or Bismarckian Prussia.
Hey there, I am of course not a lost cause guy or anything.
Granted, I can be irritating vague, but the importance of ACW in the world may be exagerated. It's an inner conflict whose consequences are kept more to the Americas, and a conflict like the Franco-Prussian one seem by factors as the french colonial empire and imperialism, the prussian-german might, etc, more important.
If the South won, at first the changes are not huge for the global system. It depends on things as if it survive, how it alignate, etc, etc.
The USA took time to reach the heights they are-where in. The USA have no special destiny per se. Just advantages.
Calm down.