If the French Monarchy fled to Louisiana, what would become of the French Colonies?

I am working on a timeline in which France keeps La Louisianne in the treaty of Paris. As a result of this, the British expel the French Canadians, who flee along with the Acadians to the still French Louisiana.

When the French revolution occurs, I plan on having the French Nobles flee to Louisiana, but I began to wonder; what would be done with the French colonies? Would the Monarchy claim them as colonies of Louisiana? OR would they remain part of European France?

Additionally, what would happen to Haiti, would the increased French presence prevent the revolt from being successful, or maybe even butterfly the revolt away?
 
It's difficult to imagine how Louisiana would be able to support a French monarchy in exile, in the same way that Brazil supported the Portuguese monarchy. Both Louisiana and Brazil were vast territories, but Brazil was incomparably more developed, with a hugely profitable economy and a population of hundreds of thousands of people of Portuguese descent. Even if all of the Canadiens were resettled in Louisiana--something that may not be plausible--it's not clear to me that this would in itself be enough to create a Louisiana capable of standing on its own.

Napoleon did famously see control of Saint-Domingue as essential for his dreams of a revived American empire, the profitable Caribbean colony supporting expansion on the mainland. Whether Louisiana could keep control of this colony, especially in the context of revolutionary tumult, is another thing.
 
It's difficult to imagine how Louisiana would be able to support a French monarchy in exile, in the same way that Brazil supported the Portuguese monarchy. Both Louisiana and Brazil were vast territories, but Brazil was incomparably more developed, with a hugely profitable economy and a population of hundreds of thousands of people of Portuguese descent. Even if all of the Canadiens were resettled in Louisiana--something that may not be plausible--it's not clear to me that this would in itself be enough to create a Louisiana capable of standing on its own.

You could have a pre-Revolutionary POD involving more French settlement in Louisiana. That way the colony could be capable of standing on its own as a viable country.
 
You could have a pre-Revolutionary POD involving more French settlement in Louisiana. That way the colony could be capable of standing on its own as a viable country.

Certainly, and I think that might even be viable. It's just that I think a POD having its origins in the deportation of the Canadiens in the 1760s is too recent.
 
I am working on a timeline in which France keeps La Louisianne in the treaty of Paris. As a result of this, the British expel the French Canadians, who flee along with the Acadians to the still French Louisiana.

When the French revolution occurs, I plan on having the French Nobles flee to Louisiana, but I began to wonder; what would be done with the French colonies? Would the Monarchy claim them as colonies of Louisiana? OR would they remain part of European France?

Additionally, what would happen to Haiti, would the increased French presence prevent the revolt from being successful, or maybe even butterfly the revolt away?

What your wanting to do is interesting but I think your not considering butterflies. If France keeps half of their North American empire they wouldn't be humiliated by the Treaty of Paris. Without this horrible humiliation there's no guarantee that the French intervene in the Revolutionary war. Without French intervention in the Revolutionary war the French revolution is much less likely sense the Government isn't completely broke and economically destroyed. So by keeping Louisiana as a part of the French colonial Empire you could easily butterfly the French revolution itself. Hell France controlling Louisiana might butterfly the American revolution as the removal of the major foreign threat contributed to the refusal of the colonists to accept the need for British taxation and troops.
 
What your wanting to do is interesting but I think your not considering butterflies. If France keeps half of their North American empire they wouldn't be humiliated by the Treaty of Paris. Without this horrible humiliation there's no guarantee that the French intervene in the Revolutionary war. Without French intervention in the Revolutionary war the French revolution is much less likely sense the Government isn't completely broke and economically destroyed. So by keeping Louisiana as a part of the French colonial Empire you could easily butterfly the French revolution itself. Hell France controlling Louisiana might butterfly the American revolution as the removal of the major foreign threat contributed to the refusal of the colonists to accept the need for British taxation and troops.
So basically what you're saying is the Brits too fucked up by annexing whole French North America... Interesting, never thought about it this way.
 

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It could become an American ally and then puppet. They could sell the north keep the south and allow the USA to use the ports there for free. If they stay long enough they might get Texas and even parts of northern Mexico if they can get more people.
 
I am working on a timeline in which France keeps La Louisianne in the treaty of Paris. As a result of this, the British expel the French Canadians, who flee along with the Acadians to the still French Louisiana.?

France officially did keep Louisiana in the 1763 treaty. It mentions that the Mississippi is the dividing point between French and British possessions. It was the secret treaty of Fontainebleau in 1762 with Spain that resulted in the transfer. It seems that Louis XV simply was tired of governing part of North America and/or wanted to compensate Spain for losing some territories in the war.

As for Britain expelling the Canadiens, that seems a bit far-fetched. France ceded Canada on the condition that the British respect the Canadiens' rights.
 
So basically what you're saying is the Brits too fucked up by annexing whole French North America... Interesting, never thought about it this way.

It's not the first time that argument has been made. By not allowing the French to keep Canada, for instance, the British government created a situation where the inhabitants of the Thirteen Colonies, undistracted by external threats, might turn towards a reconsideration of the link with their metropole.

Overwhelming victories create significant consequences.

As for the deportation of the Canadiens, I am somewhat skeptical of the idea. The ethnic cleansing of the Acadiens was possible because theirs was a community living on both sides of a debatable frontier that had been actively contested by two rival empires for centuries. The Grand Dérangement was a predictable possible outcome of one empire deciding to do away with a community closely linked to its rival. What would be the point of an ethnic cleansing of the Canadiens?
 
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To a Spanish colony?

EDIT: Never mind, I really can’t see Royalist France move to the middle of nowhere. In contrast to Brazil, Louisiana was barely developed.
 
What your wanting to do is interesting but I think your not considering butterflies. If France keeps half of their North American empire they wouldn't be humiliated by the Treaty of Paris. Without this horrible humiliation there's no guarantee that the French intervene in the Revolutionary war. Without French intervention in the Revolutionary war the French revolution is much less likely sense the Government isn't completely broke and economically destroyed. So by keeping Louisiana as a part of the French colonial Empire you could easily butterfly the French revolution itself. Hell France controlling Louisiana might butterfly the American revolution as the removal of the major foreign threat contributed to the refusal of the colonists to accept the need for British taxation and troops.
Both the French Revolution and American Revolution had plenty of other factors that contributed to their occurrence, and as far as I know these factors were mostly economic ones, such as debt. However, the French Revolution could end differently and you do make an interesting point with the American Revolution.
 
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