Trailboss49
Banned
In recent times so many new textbooks state the bulk of armies in feudalistic societies such as Medieval Europe was not the minority elite of heavy cavalry mostly manned by the nobles of society, but peasant conscripts. Basically stuff nowadays state past texts were written by poets and other artists and scholars who were provided patronage by the rich of society thus they intentionally wrote it out to make it seem like the samurai and whatever equivalent were all wonderful cultured selfless warriors who were willing to lay down their lives for the commoners without thought and that the upperclass Sipahis were the only ones doing all the fighting while peasants were simply toiling in the field is what these artists and scholars who were being endorsed by the nobles wrote down since they were getting fat.
So basically modern historians and other writers have been trying to discredit the old claims of knights and other warrior castes by painting them as abusive thugs and other negative stuff. In particular nowadays they point out the khanate horse archers made up less than 3% of the total armies and most soldiers in a typical say feudal Japan army were drafted commoners. That these commoners did all the brutal fighting and in reality knights and such simply sat back and got most of the credit, rarely fighting. The modern narrative point out when Rajputs and such did fight, it was only after the hard work was done by the peasants, and the Samurai just swept in after victory was guaranteed and took the credit. In addition it seems nowadays a lot of writings are put out about how random medieval peasants have defeated Ottoman sultanate cavalry because the aristocratic horsemen fought like individuals while Ashigaru commoners fought in disciplined and organized formation that emphasize teamwork. Many claims are made such as how Medieval Europe was saved from the Abbasids because of common foot soldiers from lower classbackgrounds and how the poor Mongol grunt on foot gets his contribution to the rise of the Mongol Empire ignored, not because of military castes like the Khanate Mongudai and the Byzantine Cathrapachts. They now start listing incidents like Swiss Pikemen defeating Leopard's forces and Saladin's army (made up of commoners or at least people without aristocratic blood) defeating the mostly European cavalry in the Crusades. So I have to ask...........
How come peasant uprising always failed when fighting against small professional armies such as the Hindu Kshatriyas (despite the fact the peasants made up the bulk of Indian armies and even did more fighting than the Kshatriya caste did)?
If its BS that knights dominated warfare and saved Europe from Muslim raiders, Vikings, and peasants were the ones responsible for Europe's freedom, why couldn't the battle hardened peasants beat knights in battles when they rioted?Especially when according to recent historians that peasants would probably have killed knights once an enemy armies militia force was beaten or deserted and only the knights stayed to defend nobles?
I mean considering the Ashigaru farmers made up over 90% of armies in Japanese warfare, how come we never hear about former soldiers in the Tokugawa era getting their Yari spears and attacking a Samurai lord's castle? If the Samurais were as cruel as modern historians say, shouldn't the Ashigaru commoners (who received military training and were battle hardened) take out an individual lord's small armies of Samurai without any problem as they storm the castle and behead the corrupt lord?
So basically modern historians and other writers have been trying to discredit the old claims of knights and other warrior castes by painting them as abusive thugs and other negative stuff. In particular nowadays they point out the khanate horse archers made up less than 3% of the total armies and most soldiers in a typical say feudal Japan army were drafted commoners. That these commoners did all the brutal fighting and in reality knights and such simply sat back and got most of the credit, rarely fighting. The modern narrative point out when Rajputs and such did fight, it was only after the hard work was done by the peasants, and the Samurai just swept in after victory was guaranteed and took the credit. In addition it seems nowadays a lot of writings are put out about how random medieval peasants have defeated Ottoman sultanate cavalry because the aristocratic horsemen fought like individuals while Ashigaru commoners fought in disciplined and organized formation that emphasize teamwork. Many claims are made such as how Medieval Europe was saved from the Abbasids because of common foot soldiers from lower classbackgrounds and how the poor Mongol grunt on foot gets his contribution to the rise of the Mongol Empire ignored, not because of military castes like the Khanate Mongudai and the Byzantine Cathrapachts. They now start listing incidents like Swiss Pikemen defeating Leopard's forces and Saladin's army (made up of commoners or at least people without aristocratic blood) defeating the mostly European cavalry in the Crusades. So I have to ask...........
How come peasant uprising always failed when fighting against small professional armies such as the Hindu Kshatriyas (despite the fact the peasants made up the bulk of Indian armies and even did more fighting than the Kshatriya caste did)?
If its BS that knights dominated warfare and saved Europe from Muslim raiders, Vikings, and peasants were the ones responsible for Europe's freedom, why couldn't the battle hardened peasants beat knights in battles when they rioted?Especially when according to recent historians that peasants would probably have killed knights once an enemy armies militia force was beaten or deserted and only the knights stayed to defend nobles?
I mean considering the Ashigaru farmers made up over 90% of armies in Japanese warfare, how come we never hear about former soldiers in the Tokugawa era getting their Yari spears and attacking a Samurai lord's castle? If the Samurais were as cruel as modern historians say, shouldn't the Ashigaru commoners (who received military training and were battle hardened) take out an individual lord's small armies of Samurai without any problem as they storm the castle and behead the corrupt lord?