If Occitania is a part of spain..

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Come to think of it, for a Catalan nationalist, wouldn't it would be better if he WASN'T Catalan? After all, that helps Catalonia to distance herself from the atrocities The Conquest Of The New World entailed.

I know! I really wouldn't want to claim a rogue like Colom for my own.



Yes back to the topic
 
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At least the Catalans who only buy books in Catalan can safely be presumed to have read them. The amount of people who don't read books AT ALL these days is steadily increasing.

Koreans also have a penchant in claiming....


If Aragon keeps Tolosa do you think castillian will be the official language?

Occitan is a language that has a higher prestige than castillian.
 

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Koreans also have a penchant in claiming....


If Aragon keeps Tolosa do you think castillian will be the official language?

Occitan is a language that has a higher prestige than castillian.

If Aragon keeps Toulouse, Catalan/Occitan will probably unassailable in Aragon, but Castilian has a lot of speakers so it is probably also unassailable in Castille and Andalusia. We're looking at a situation where there is a clear linguistic division instead of Castilian being spoken in areas of both kingdoms.

It looks much more probable that there'll be a separation between Aragon and Castille at some point, and a modern Aragonese nation will develop.
 
If Aragon keeps Toulouse, Catalan/Occitan will probably unassailable in Aragon, but Castilian has a lot of speakers so it is probably also unassailable in Castille and Andalusia. We're looking at a situation where there is a clear linguistic division instead of Castilian being spoken in areas of both kingdoms.

It looks much more probable that there'll be a separation between Aragon and Castille at some point, and a modern Aragonese nation will develop.

But is occitan dominated spain possible?
 
If Aragon keeps Toulouse, Catalan/Occitan will probably unassailable in Aragon, but Castilian has a lot of speakers so it is probably also unassailable in Castille and Andalusia. We're looking at a situation where there is a clear linguistic division instead of Castilian being spoken in areas of both kingdoms.

It looks much more probable that there'll be a separation between Aragon and Castille at some point, and a modern Aragonese nation will develop.
How will it possibly look like?
 
Well, Occitan might be the dominant language of Spain instead of Castillan and as presuming, Catalan and Occitan will be the same language if Occitania is part of Spain.

What would happened to France if Occitania is part of Spain?
 

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Well, Occitan might be the dominant language of Spain instead of Castillan and as presuming, Catalan and Occitan will be the same language if Occitania is part of Spain.

What would happened to France if Occitania is part of Spain?

Well France are still big so it will likely continue being a great power if it it unifies, of course France will be more limited in any Italian adventure, but the biggest weakness are if Bugundy still comes around it size are comparative with this lesser France, beside that France will be less able to influence the popes. But I must admit I have a hard time seeing France centralise without having/gaining control of Occitania, so likely the POD which create this are more succesful Normans, which weakens the French throne enough that France end up as the HRE. We may very well see the Emperor expand his overlordship to France. So we may see a France which goes the way of Arles and medieval Italy. Of course expanding the HRE will make it even harder to centralise, through Frances position are much to integrate into a common state with Germany than Italy are.
 
Well France are still big so it will likely continue being a great power if it it unifies, of course France will be more limited in any Italian adventure, but the biggest weakness are if Bugundy still comes around it size are comparative with this lesser France, beside that France will be less able to influence the popes. But I must admit I have a hard time seeing France centralise without having/gaining control of Occitania, so likely the POD which create this are more succesful Normans, which weakens the French throne enough that France end up as the HRE. We may very well see the Emperor expand his overlordship to France. So we may see a France which goes the way of Arles and medieval Italy. Of course expanding the HRE will make it even harder to centralise, through Frances position are much to integrate into a common state with Germany than Italy are.
I think France and Britain will be under the same throne if Occitania is not under france, in short Britain and Ireland will be Francophone, it will spell doom to english and irish gaelic..
 
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