If Meat+ Milk Together Not Kosher Why Not Chicken+ Eggs?

I've always thought it intriguing that in kosher tables, it's forbidden to serve meat and milk (or any kind of cheese,curd, yogurt,etc) at the very same time on the grounds of 'serving meat with its mother'. Yet, would it have been that big a leap to ALSO forbid having chicken (or any kind of fowl) served with any kind of egg product on the same grounds?
 
Why is fish not considered "meat"?

The ancient Jewish populations were Pastoralists ruminants were the basis of their lives and practices and the milk/baby goat/sheep/calf is related to pagan rituals for fertility.
 
I've always thought it intriguing that in kosher tables, it's forbidden to serve meat and milk (or any kind of cheese,curd, yogurt,etc) at the very same time on the grounds of 'serving meat with its mother'. Yet, would it have been that big a leap to ALSO forbid having chicken (or any kind of fowl) served with any kind of egg product on the same grounds?

I would guess it's because the eggs are unfertilized and are thus just a part of the hen.
 
I never understood how the rule came to band all mixing of meat and dairy, when the text clearly says "Do not boil a kid in its mother’s milk." That's one very specific dish made very specifically of food from two animals with a very specific family connection to each other, if the translation is accurate at all.
 
As I understood it, a lot was down to 'stock conservation', especially in the swings from feast to famine. Likewise, pork etc was off the menu because of parasites' encysted eggs that would have needed very slow cooking to kill. Which would need a LOT of fuel, which was often in short supply...

Uh, how do you get semi-itinerant pastoralists to abide by apparently daft food-safety rules ? Enshrine in religion...
 
I guess that it's just been practiced before it became codified in the Thora. And I remember a video blog (Israel correspondence for German Television) about keeping kosher and that scientists found out that seperating meat and dairy improved digestion. Maybe fewer germs at a time or similar.
 
to my understanding, some consider it cruel to cook the child with the very thing that was meant to keep it alive.

Since Chickens don't lay eggs for their chicks to eat, I suppose that's not an issue.

On the idea of not wanting to serve "Mother and child together", I would have to ask that if something like Oyakodon (which literally means "Parent and Child") had been around at the time, then one could make an argument for not serving egg and chicken togther.
 
So this is a bit of an explain-y thing, but there are reasons(pinging any shabbos-observant people for later in case I miss something). This is how I learned it.

1. The rule starts out in the Torah as specifically a kid in it's mother's milk. Later rabbis deduce from that rule that there is a more general rule(based in repetition) on mixing milk and meat from land animals with milk. Or the rule was preserved orally and then written down.

2. At this point, fowl and milk is still OK. This starts going towards being not done because people tended to treat fowl as meat. There was a period where this was a varying custom, with some regions observing it and some not.

3. Eventually, due to issues with confusing fowls and other meats, issues with "meats you can mix" and general worries about perpeptual rules-lawyering about what is and isn't a permissible meat to mix, eventually later Talmudic-period rabbis just say "stuff it, no meats and milk period". At no point does fish enter in, presumably since it's harder to mix with say, chicken. Also, fish doesn't usually get treated as a "meat" the same way as say steak or chicken is.
 
I've always thought it intriguing that in kosher tables, it's forbidden to serve meat and milk (or any kind of cheese,curd, yogurt,etc) at the very same time on the grounds of 'serving meat with its mother'. Yet, would it have been that big a leap to ALSO forbid having chicken (or any kind of fowl) served with any kind of egg product on the same grounds?

Eggs are kosher parve. If blood is found in the egg, the egg is not kosher and HAS to be discarded. I guess you could say the egg is the food which the embryo chicken eats. So really you are eating baby chicken food, not the actual chick.
If eggs are fully formed inside the chicken, they may be consumed with dairy and considered neutral. If they are partially formed, they are no longer neutral and cannot be eaten with milk products. So I think its more likely eggs would be considered bashar (meat) than dairy.
To get what you would like, you need eggs to be considered dairy. Which is difficult with a potential embryo chick and blood.
 
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