If Italy calls itself the Roman Republic/Empire, what would be its informal name?

So, to clarify, as people call the Russian federation, "Russia", the United Mexican States ,"Mexico" and the Hellenic Republic "Greece", what would people call a new Roman Republic and/,or Empire.

Would they just call the country Rome ,and call the capital "Rome city" in the same way people call Mexico "Mexico City" as I believe that Mexico was named after it's capital city.

Oh and incase it helps, Benito Mussolini, who is smarter and more competent, is the one to rename Italy, and he is vastly more successful in it gaining prestige as he focuses on the economy and building industry, while Libya is used as an extension of Italy itself as Libyans are considered citizens. He never goes after Ethiopia and doesn't join Hitler eventually joins the Allies. Thus keeping the Italian/new Roman territories lost in OTL. Italy occupies Austria with weapons and supplies from the British/Americans, thus giving them an occupation zone. This Italy takes France's place in the United Nations. Italy eventually discovers oil in Libya and becomes a major economy alongside the post war Germany.

Don't focus on the possibility of the above, the general idea is that Italy is a great power and has decidedd to rename itself the Roman Whatever, to reflect it's status.

Since this Italy is respected and is seen as the genuine successor to the Romans with everybody recognizing it as such, what would be it's informal name?
 
If we're assuming it's recognized, possibly something like the Neo-Roman Empire to distinguish itself, or Roma since it is an Italian Roman Empire, maybe they do decide to use Rome.
 
Mussolini's probably too late to really expunge the name 'Italy' given that the country had been called that for decades, and the geographical area had a country named Italy for centuries.
 
He will probably keep the name: Italian Empire, while the neoroman undertones will be present, getting rid of the name Italy will be really not popular...expecially with the older generation (that include a lot of generals)
 
If Italy calls itself the Roman Republic, won't that piss off Tuscans, Lombards, Venetians, etc? Not a good foundation for loyalty to the state.
 
Maybe a secondary name for the empire might be, the New Roman Empire? Or the Second Roman Empire?
 
Funnily enough, under Augustus the 'Province of Italia' as you'd imagine Italy to be was NOT a province: instead, it was directly part of Rome the City itself! Italians had all the rights of citizens of the City of Rome itself, be they living in Mediolanum/Milan, Capua, Verona, Neapolis/Naples, Ancona, etc. Just to throw a monkey wrench into all of this. :D

But yeah, while the official name would be "Roman Empire", and the likely noun merely "Rome" - not "Romania/Roman-Land", due to the modern Balkans country and the Byzantine Empire - I think it'd still be "Italy" in every way that matters. Especially as Mussolini would dig up all the Italo-Roman historical intertwining like the above factoid, or how Romans settled colonies and outnumbered local Italics and/or assimilated them fully, etc... Rome had as much a long history of working with various Italic peoples that had their own regional cultures, much as how modern-day Italy still has vibrant local ones. Witness wars like the Italian and Social Wars too, say.
 

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It would probably be called "Rome" with "Roman" as a prefix to Territories or Protectorates, i.e. Roman Libya. The city itself would still be "Rome" as well, I'd think.

If it's this "uber-Mussolini" in charge, would he remove the Monarchy and Proclaim the Second Roman Republic?
 
It would probably be called "Rome" with "Roman" as a prefix to Territories or Protectorates, i.e. Roman Libya. The city itself would still be "Rome" as well, I'd think.

If it's this "uber-Mussolini" in charge, would he remove the Monarchy and Proclaim the Second Roman Republic?

Probably. It depends on how much support he gets.
 
It would probably be called "Rome" with "Roman" as a prefix to Territories or Protectorates, i.e. Roman Libya. The city itself would still be "Rome" as well, I'd think.

If it's this "uber-Mussolini" in charge, would he remove the Monarchy and Proclaim the Second Roman Republic?

Don't think so. After all Mussolini was enamored of the concept of Roman Empire, after all after the fall of Abyssinia he made the famous speech about "the return of the empire on the immortal hills of Rome".

And an Empire is always more fancy than a Republic! ;)
 
Don't think so. After all Mussolini was enamored of the concept of Roman Empire, after all after the fall of Abyssinia he made the famous speech about "the return of the empire on the immortal hills of Rome".

And an Empire is always more fancy than a Republic! ;)
Just to point out that by that time, Empire is not incompatible with a Republic: look at France. It definitely had an Empire but was a Republic :)
 
Just to point out that by that time, Empire is not incompatible with a Republic: look at France. It definitely had an Empire but was a Republic :)

I am not sure if would be fitting call the overseas territories of a colonial power an Empire, I mean the official French terms were protectorates, territories and colonies after all.

The only real colonial Empire to be called that way was the British Raj; to a certain extent - because not universally recognized - also the AOI was an Empire.

But after all, we often forget the original Roman Empire was still a de jure Republic...
 

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Don't think so. After all Mussolini was enamored of the concept of Roman Empire, after all after the fall of Abyssinia he made the famous speech about "the return of the empire on the immortal hills of Rome".

And an Empire is always more fancy than a Republic! ;)

True, but at that time there were nations called the "so-and-so Republic" - that's all I was referring to. I was merely postulating on the name, not the extent or form of Rome's polity.
 

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I am not sure if would be fitting call the overseas territories of a colonial power an Empire, I mean the official French terms were protectorates, territories and colonies after all.

The only real colonial Empire to be called that way was the British Raj; to a certain extent - because not universally recognized - also the AOI was an Empire.

But after all, we often forget the original Roman Empire was still a de jure Republic...

The French terms for the territories of the French Colonial Empire were protectorates, territories and colonies. The collection as a whole was the Empire colonial francais, France herself was a Republic, an Empire and a Republic again whilst she retained the Empire overseas.
 
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