If gun powder plot suceeded?

This seems like quite an interesting scenario which unfortunately I don't really know much about. Ignoring the plausibility of the plot succeeding, perhaps someone with a bit more knowledge on the period could answer these questions:

- who else apart from the king and the MPs would be in parliament, and hence blown up?
- did the plotters have any plans beyond blowing up the king?
- what's the likelihood of the plotters being caught? If they are I assume there'll be a massive show trial ending with their execution.
- how bad will the following clamp down on Catholics be? Could this result in revolt in Ireland?
- who would be in control of the regency for the infant King Charles I who was only 6 at the time of the plot?

I think you really need to answer these questions to be able to start drawing up a picture of what the immediate, and more long-term effects of the Gunpowder Plot succeeding would be.
 
Also on top of this, how colonisation of America would have gone after the events, if there would have been a delay or a change in how America declared independance.
 
Also on top of this, how colonisation of America would have gone after the events, if there would have been a delay or a change in how America declared independance.

There are many legions of butterflies between 1605 and 1776 zeezack, let alone 2010. The questions Rubberduck poses are good one to discuss.
 
This seems like quite an interesting scenario which unfortunately I don't really know much about. Ignoring the plausibility of the plot succeeding, perhaps someone with a bit more knowledge on the period could answer these questions:

- who else apart from the king and the MPs would be in parliament, and hence blown up?
- did the plotters have any plans beyond blowing up the king?
- what's the likelihood of the plotters being caught? If they are I assume there'll be a massive show trial ending with their execution.
- how bad will the following clamp down on Catholics be? Could this result in revolt in Ireland?
- who would be in control of the regency for the infant King Charles I who was only 6 at the time of the plot?

I think you really need to answer these questions to be able to start drawing up a picture of what the immediate, and more long-term effects of the Gunpowder Plot succeeding would be.

OK, your points in order:

- As well as the King, the Queen and several other members of the Royal Family, the explosion would have also killed the most senior judges in the land, most of the Protestant Aristocracy, most Bishops of the Church of England, the Privy Council and the Members of the Commons. Basically, the entire government of the country.
-The second objective was to head 10 miles north of their midlands base to Warwick, and capture Princess Elizabeth (3rd in line) before placing her on the throne. Charles and Henry would have had undefined duties at court. Henry Percy, Earl of Northumberland, probably becomes protector.
-Though there would be some support in the North, it is very likely that there would have been a counter revolution, a civil war or a Coup d'etat removing the catholics from power. The majority of the population were protestant by now. The plotters would then be exectued in the most grusome way imaginable.
-Expect massive clampdowns on Catholics. In the south, something like 60% may be killed in reprisals or forced abroad. This percentage will be smaller in the north, but actual numbers of catholics dead may be higher. Most of Elizabeth I's moderate policies are dropped, replaced by harsher penalties along the lines of Edward VI. Possibly larger and more extensive plantations in Ireland, so as to create a protestant settled area in both Ulster and Meath, along with parts of Leinster and Munster. Connaught will probably be the only 'Irish' Ireland left. Cultural destruction along the lines of the Highland clearances may be encouraged. Probably large scale Irish emmigration to the continent.
-Not sure about Charle's regent, depends who's left.

As an aside, future colonies will probably be officially Protestant (so Maryland is gone), and there may be less of a crackdown on Puritans.
 
There are many legions of butterflies between 1605 and 1776 zeezack, let alone 2010. The questions Rubberduck poses are good one to discuss.

Sure, but what would have likely happened around 1490-1550? Given that English govenment has just been taken down...

would this mean that Spain and France may have more foot hold in the New World?
 
Sure, but what would have likely happened around 1490-1550? Given that English govenment has just been taken down...

would this mean that Spain and France may have more foot hold in the New World?

Er...

You do know that the Gunpowder Plot was in 1605? Also, that English colonialism in the Americas didn't begin until the 1600s?
 
Er...

You do know that the Gunpowder Plot was in 1605? Also, that English colonialism in the Americas didn't begin until the 1600s?
Well then certainly Spain and France would have a better foothold in the new world if the English are roiling internally for some years and busily stamping out the Catholics in their own lands relative to OTL.
 
Well then certainly Spain and France would have a better foothold in the new world if the English are roiling internally for some years and busily stamping out the Catholics in their own lands relative to OTL.

Oh most certainly.
 

Valdemar II

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Well then certainly Spain and France would have a better foothold in the new world if the English are roiling internally for some years and busily stamping out the Catholics in their own lands relative to OTL.

I can't see Spain getting a better foothold, the plurality of the New World are Spanish speaking today. But I could see a somewhat stronger French position, but I think the Dutch will come to dominate the Great lakes from the New Netherland colony. So we could see a interresting split with a French Quebec and Mississippi Watershed (including the westen Great Lakes), a English South East and a Dutch North East and easten Great Lakes.
 
If I was going to write this TL, I'd title it "BOOM!":D

But on a more serious note, a French, Dutch, and English divided eastern North America sounds incredibly interesting.
 
If I was going to write this TL, I'd title it "BOOM!":D

But on a more serious note, a French, Dutch, and English divided eastern North America sounds incredibly interesting.
I agree. I want to read that. Having a colonization scheme likes that makes me very uninterested in whatever happens in England itself if the plot goes off.
 

Valdemar II

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I agree. I want to read that. Having a colonization scheme likes that makes me very uninterested in whatever happens in England itself if the plot goes off.

Oh but England-Scotland are going to be interesting in it own right, in a earlier thread about this issue, there was the suggestion that we would see a absolut Protestant England-Scotland, which are going to transform the face of the 17-18th century Europe. A absolute English state will be much more interested in gain on the mainland, and be a much more unitarian state both religeous and cultural, I could see the crown doing it best to integrate the difference Protestant groups into the Church of England and later try to create a watered down unifying dogma. While I doubt we will see the effect of the differencies in the British regime fast enough to affect the 30YW, the wave of Catholic refugees from England, Ireland and Scotland could be interesting. I doubt we will see many go to the New World, I think France would be the main receiver, meaning they will rebuild faster from the War of Religion, beside that I think the Austrians may use them as settlers on the Hungarian frontier, which they did their best to recatholise. While their identity won't last in the long term* we may see Irish and English last name spread spread among many important figurs for centuries on the mainland.

*Through we may see English and Gaelic enclaves in Hungary survive for a century or two especially if they're placed in the Carpathian
 
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