If Germany Won World War II

Part balderdash. I agree that its unlikely that Joseph Kennedy Sr. would become president. Also I'm not entirely sure that defeat at Normandie would have cost the Allies the war. The biggest leap is the assumption that Operation Sealion is going to work that late in the war and with the RAF and USAAF having air superiority over Britain and the Channel.
 
Also I'm not entirely sure that defeat at Normandie would have cost the Allies the war.
I think you are thinking of the film version. In the book the POD is a successful operation Blue, leading to the capture of the Baku oil fields. Still a bit unlikely, but a better one than D-Day failing.

I am also skeptical that Hitler could last until the 60s. If he had syphilis, as some believe, he would be dead by the mid 50s at the latest. Parkinson's disease might mean he lives into the 60s, but that is stretching it.

However, I have to agree with the book that a new Cold War would develop, with the Americans and the Germans engaging in proxy wars across the world. Not much else is given about the world so it is hard to comment.

I personally think that, despite me liking the book a lot, there are better examples of Nazi victory. like the Finnish AH project "Valtakunta". It hasn't been translated into English, but there is a Hearts of Iron 2 AAR that covers it in very good detail. I have the link here:

http://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/showthread.php?t=263106
 

Sissco

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Bottom line is though, Had it not been for America, Britain would've eventually fallen to Germany's presure! Britain was just too weak and powerless to fight such a war alone, even as late as november 1941 and even then we were getting loads of help from America in the form of the lend lease act! By 1942 or so there were so Many American Aircraft and fighter crews in Britain that HItler would'nt dare attempt to order an invasion of Britain.....He migh have succeded if America had completly kept out of the war and Britain was completly alone.....so we Brits owe America BIG TIME!

Sissco
 
There was no chance in hell that Hitler could have pulled off Operation Sealion or any other invasion plan of Britain. The Royal Navy and RAF was too big. I think the best Germany can hope for is a compromise peace after the USSR is decisively beaten or if Germany causes a disaster at Dunkirk. I'm assuming a TL were the US doesn't enter for whatever reason.

And you're forgetting that Britain would have the A-bomb before Germany. Germany's A-bomb project was going in completely the wrong direction. Heisenberg thought he'd need tons of uranium to achieve critical mass. A victorious nazi-Germany would probably only invest in them after somebody else shows it's possible. I suppose Germany could still use nerve gas as retaliation for a nuclear attack and Britain would need a casus belli.
 
Just to clear some points up

1. Operation Sea Mammal That Must Not Be Named have no hope of success (I'm currently reading Winston Churchill's autobiography, which he stated that there was a possibilty of it happening, but probably doomed to failure due to the British victory of BoB and the lack of proper landing crafts)

2. Even with the failure of Operation Overlord, there is still no hope of Nazi Germany surviving WW2 with ally forces still advancing up Italy and the Red Army pushing from the east.

3. The RAF was actually smaller than the German Air Force. Remember the quote of Winston Churchill about the RAF after the Battle of Britian. The Germans could have won the battle if it weren't for Goering's stupidity, though even with the defeat of the RAF Operation Sea Mammal will still not suceed.
 
Ah, the HBO Fatherland travesty. Yeah, the movie version of events was incomprehensible. The book's was better, as mentioned above, and not least because he's vague about it.
 

burmafrd

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The sea mmmal not named never had a chance. Even if Goering had kept up the pressure on the airfields and forced Fighter Command to retreat north there still would have been hundreds of fighters and hundreds of fighter/bombers and hundreds of bombers to attack the invasion fleet. Add to that the Royal Navy. The germans were going to use hundreds of BARGES being towed across the channel= I have actually crossed the channel numerous times, a few by boat, and only with PERFECT weather did it even have a chance- and that was without any interference. We are talking about 2-3 knots top speed. It would take from initial movement to landing 5-6 hours at best. Such slow moving targets would be perfect for target practice by anything within range, be it sea or air or even artillery on shore. And if they tried it by night it would be a true circus.
 
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