If Britain never passed the Nationality Act of 1948

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    If the British Nationality Act of 1948(which allowed hundreds of thousands of Jamaicans, Indians, Pakistanis, and Bengalis to permanently settle in Britain) was never passed, would Britain be a more conservative, homogenous country like Poland or Hungary considering that they never would've had to become a multicultural society to accomadate those immigrants?
     
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  2. GunsCarsGuitars Modern day folk hero Banned

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    One would think so.
     
  3. Inferus In dreams, truth.

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    This sounds like a trick question.
     
  4. NCW8 Go, Lemmings, Go!

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    There were already refugees in Britain from WWII, not all of whom would be inclined to return home, so there’s going to be some immigration anyway. Without immigration from the Commonwealth another group, such as the Poles, could be faced with prejudice.

    The British Nationality Act wasn’t passed out of pure philanthropy. Britain was facing a manpower shortage after WWII. Without the manpower provided by immigrants, recovery from the war is going to take longer and Britain is going to be a less prosperous place than OTL. This could well see Britain turning more to Socialism than it did OTL - obviously not full communist, but something more like Italy.
     
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    Or they could’ve just started a temporary guest worker program like Germany did.
     
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  6. Ingsoc Consistently Unfunny

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    And those guest Turkish workers are just about to return to Turkey... aaaaany day now. Their children too. And their kids.
     
  7. NCW8 Go, Lemmings, Go!

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    Yeah, that German guest worker program has certainly prevented the development of a multicultural society.

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    As @Ingsoc says, those guest workers are going to settle down in Britain, marry, have children and lead to pretty much the same situation as if the British Nationality Act had been passed.
     
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    Although that could’ve been prevented if the West German government had repatriated them (probably with financial incentives) during the economic recession in the 1970s rather than giving them family reunification rights. The same goes for the rest of European countries that implemented guest worker programs during the 1940s-1970s.
     
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  9. NCW8 Go, Lemmings, Go!

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    Oh, dear. Germany expelling an “unwanted” minority - I wonder why they didn’t do that?

    To go back to the British case, by the Seventies these guest workers will have been living there for twenty years or more and have children born there. By that time Britain was their home. As Lenny Henry put it, when a similar financial incentive was suggested, “I’d gladly take a thousand pounds to go back home to Dudley.”
     
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    Charlie Williams said much the same, but with regard to Yorkshire.
     
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    Germany had actually attempted to pay guest workers to return after the West and East reunified(Rückkehrprämie). The government could’ve had more success at repatriating guest workers if they hadn’t allowed the guest workers to bring their families into the country and if limits had been placed the amount of workers allowed in and the length of their residency. Britain and the rest of Europe could’ve done the same.
     
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  12. Wimble Toot Imagine there are no hypothetical situations Banned

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    Yes, an even more boring and tedious place to live than it currently is.
     
  13. sparky42 CMII

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    If there were limitations, I wonder if you'd see even more Irish movement over to make up some of the shortfall in population/workers?
     
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  14. Ingsoc Consistently Unfunny

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    Britain's pretty cool tbf.

    Why?
     
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    Why what?
     
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    why they should have done so
     
  17. sparky42 CMII

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    Why remove those people? What reason would the EU governments have to do so and what benefits would they get?
     
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    I suspect I may have an idea, but I’m interested to hear anyway.
     
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    Because during the 70s, both the economic recession and deindustrialization caused a lot of those migrants to lose their jobs. Not to mention that a large cultural gap existed between Europeans and non-Europeans. So in retrospect, it would’ve been much easier to simply repatriate them with payment rather than dealing with the issues associated with integration, poverty, and unemployment within those communities that still persist up until this day.
     
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  20. BELFAST Irish Confederate

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    I think the British would need to import workers from elsewhere. Ireland did not import workers in 1948. it still has become multicultural.
     
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