If Anne boleyn had another child after Catherine dies

What would be its status? Would it still be considered a bastard since marriage between Henry and Anne was illegal in catholic eyes or would it seen as legitimate since at that point Catherine was dead so Henry was allowed to marry? Anne was pregnant at that point and had miscarriage later so live baby isn't out of realm of possibility

If latter what would either gender mean for its place in succession?
 
What would be its status? Would it still be considered a bastard since marriage between Henry and Anne was illegal in catholic eyes or would it seen as legitimate since at that point Catherine was dead so Henry was allowed to marry? Anne was pregnant at that point and had miscarriage later so live baby isn't out of realm of possibility

If latter what would either gender mean for its place in succession?

If I remember my readings, Anne miscarried a male child. If she had been able to carry it to term, the butterflies would have been rather...large.
 
If I remember my readings, Anne miscarried a male child. If she had been able to carry it to term, the butterflies would have been rather...large.

Yes, that's correct. But I'm jsut asking for his status. Obviously if he survives Anne keeps her head but is he still a bastard? He would be first in succession line but unlike edward could still be a bastard. Or would Catholics just ignore t since he could be legitimate?
 
Yes, that's correct. But I'm jsut asking for his status. Obviously if he survives Anne keeps her head but is he still a bastard? He would be first in succession line but unlike edward could still be a bastard. Or would Catholics just ignore t since he could be legitimate?

Actually, after Elizabeth's birth, Henry enacted the Act of Succession that disinherited Mary, proclaimed her a bastard, and declared Elizabeth Legitimate. As this son would be born after Elizabeth, he would be legally every bit as legitimate as Elizabeth was at that time.

Elizabeth's legitimacy changed over the years because of Anne's fall from grace and subsequent beheading.

If Anne has that son, there will be no fall from grace, no beheading, and no demoting to illegitimate status for Elizabeth, or her brother...
 
Actually, after Elizabeth's birth, Henry enacted the Act of Succession that disinherited Mary, proclaimed her a bastard, and declared Elizabeth Legitimate. As this son would be born after Elizabeth, he would be legally every bit as legitimate as Elizabeth was at that time.

Elizabeth's legitimacy changed over the years because of Anne's fall from grace and subsequent beheading.

If Anne has that son, there will be no fall from grace, no beheading, and no demoting to illegitimate status for Elizabeth, or her brother...

As far as English were concerned. But I was asking about Catholics, mostly spain and Pope.
 
I suppose Spain might hold a grudge against Henry for disinheriting Mary, but I think other nations would not have a problem accepting the legitimacy of the child. There wouldn't seem to be any reason for the rest of them to object to the marriage to Anne at that point, and by extension the child. However, Catholic nations would probably would only recognize the marriage from Catherine's death onward, thus keeping Elizabeth illegitimate in their eyes.
 
As far as English were concerned. But I was asking about Catholics, mostly spain and Pope.

Naturally the Austrian Habsburgs and the Spanish Habsburgs would be equally displeased; Catherine was also Ferdinand's aunt and thus Mary was his cousin too.

France is more complex, though they would accept any male heir born from Anne Boleyn, after Catherine's death quite quick.
 
Legally there's no question: any male child would be just as illegitimate as Elizabeth. The only way that the Catholics would consider him legitimate is if Henry marries Anne again after Catherine's death, which won't happen because he would see no reason to. France might treat such the Prince of Wales as legitimate but in terms of Catholic law he won't be.
 
Legally there's no question: any male child would be just as illegitimate as Elizabeth. The only way that the Catholics would consider him legitimate is if Henry marries Anne again after Catherine's death, which won't happen because he would see no reason to. France might treat such the Prince of Wales as legitimate but in terms of Catholic law he won't be.

Both Anne and Henry knew that a male heir to them would have killed the complaining of 99% of those opposed to their union. You'd still have the tiny minority of hardcore Catholics complaining but even Charles V, ever the pragmatist, would have made peace with Henry and realised that with a healthy male heir, he was much more secure on his throne and Mary had no chance to inherit.
 
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