Ideas for a 17th century Dutch timeline

IOTL, Dutch harbours and Antwerp were among the most important harbours for emmigration of Germans. The Dutch controling the whole mouth of the Rhine could easily promote emmigration of Germans into their colonies, if they see it fit. In Germany, the consequences of the 30-years war are still felt. Shouldn't be that hard to find people willing to start anew in America, particularly if the Dutch are more tolerant in religious things.

thats actually a great idea, i seem to remember New Amsterdam being pretty multicultural anyway (even including freed slaves living as equals to the rest of the population, there was still slavery though)
 
Some ideas of events that actualy happend and could be used for an ATL when William II can find his glory and teritory uncrease of the United Provinces

1652 Earlier Anglo Dutch war, English initial succesfull but splitting fleet of supperiour war ships and send a part to the Mediterainian. Dutch combined fleet of smaller war ships and armed merchants raid Chattam and destroyes a large part of the English fleet at angor. Peace deal is mild for the English but they never try to chalange the Dutch in for 3 decades.

1656 William II brokers a deal with France over the division of the Spanish Netherlands.
War last only a year for the Netherlands. State Gederal, and the merchants demand peace, cost of war are to high. Peace deal will be complete conquest of Flandres and Spanish Gelders for the Netherlands and Artois and Chambrai for the French.

1657 William II suppport the revolt of the city of Munster, Munster is succesful and become a Protetant independed city. The hardly conceiled support of William led to the 1st MUnster war. State army is sucesful. Peace deal in favour of the United Provinces.Mutual border will be the river Eems. County of Lingen, personel possesion of William II enlarged, connected with the United Provinces.

1659 Bishop of Munster invade the United Provinces, the standing State army beat the invadors and take the very succesfull initiative. Peace deal in favour of United Provinces and William II. Teritoryal gains
Northern part of the Bishoprich of Munster become Dutch.

1660 Count of Bentheim will take a seat in the State General. Bentheim become a part of the United Provinces.

1663 William support the revolt of East Frisia and the city of Emden. East Frisia become independent and a part of the Untited Provinces, city of Emden will have their own vote in the State General. Relation with Denmark becuase of this is damaged

1664 Land trade between William II and Frederik of Brandenburg. Brandenburg get Lingen and asum of money and William will get Kleve. William II have loans with the State General, there for there is a clause that the State General will inheretid if William or his male heirs will have no male heir.

1666 William II dies.


Some iedeas of a more succes full Dutch Brasil

1634 Brouwer appointed as Governor of Brasil, not as cold as Coen in the East but almost his equivalent as a hars ruler, determined to make this possesion a succes.
1636 Portuguese are beaten by comander Von Schoppen until the Rio Sao Francesco.

1637 Governor Brouwer order a siege from Land and sea, Salvador. This time the city really surrenders and under threat of complete destruction a peace deal is made in favor of the Dutch.
Border will be the river Sao Fransesco.

1641 Governor Brouwer dies, he is replaced by prince Johan Maurits Siegen.

1642 Johan Maurits Siegen arives in New Holland, Dutch Brasil. He changes the hars policy of the previous governor into a milder form and some form of self governance. He also set a large building program in motion to make Recife a tru capital. He also makes propaganda in Europe for colonist

1646 Suppression of Portuguese revolt in Brasil

1648 Peace of West Falia end of the war with Spain and Portugual.

1649 Charter of the WIC is not extended. trade of the WIC is taken over by smaller trading companies or indepentend traders. Former WIC colonies in the America's start to frolish and atrackt colonist
 
Some ideas
This is not entirely what I had in mind, but I will consider it.

Although i have one comment.
1652 Earlier Anglo Dutch war,


How is this an earlier Anglo-Dutch war? The first Anglo-Dutch war started in 1652:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Anglo%E2%80%93Dutch_War
Unless you mean they start a couple of months earlier?



If I am going to write this timeline (I still need a title for it BTW), I think I will completely focus on the Netherlands (and things closely related to them, like colonies or the southern Netherlands. One thing I noticed while writing a Brother's Betrayal (which I still plan to continue) is that writing for things I don't know a lot about realy slows things down for me.
 
Playing with the idea of the WIC being tossed out of North America, at least.

If you have more RCs in the Netherlands, and more settlement in New Amsterdam, might you not get a disproportionate number of non-calvinists in the New World? So that New Amsterdam, etc., becomes predominantly Lutheran and RC?

I suspect that Britain would likely take the area over eventually, but a second colony with a major RC population would make things very interesting later. (Maryland was the only colony with a major RC population, IIRC. And it was only a minority of a small colony.)

Would a sizeable RC population in one of the colonies seriously affect the ability of the colonies to work together when readjusting status with Britain (e.g. in an alt-Revolution, or otherwise)?


Remember that the population of the 13 colonies (starting with New ENgland, but not ending there) had far more 'dissenters' than Britain - the same could be true for New Netherlands.
 
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