ICWI: “War on Terror” coming to an end as U.S. pulls troops out of Canada…

Incognito

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So after over a decade of War on Terror, the occupation of Canada is finally coming to an end and U.S. troops are leaving the “Great White North” and returning home. Do you guys think it’s the right move? I know the American public is sick of the war and U.S. troops coming back in body bags, but I fear the new Canadian government will not be able to hold out without U.S. backing them up. I can only cross my fingers and hope the new U.S.-trained Canadian military and continued USAF drone strikes can keep the insurgents down and prevent them from overrunning the country.

And what do you think the future holds for U.S.-Denmark relations? Kingdom of Denmark was supposed to be America’s ally in the War on Terror and yet it turned out that while everyone was looking for him in Canada, the mastermind behind the 9/11 attacks was hiding out in Greenland. And when Seal Team Six went in and finally killed him, the Danish authorities claimed it was a violation of Danish sovereignty :mad:! Apparently hiding a wanted terrorist while claiming that you are trying to track him down is A-OK but when someone goes and does what you said you were doing all along, it is a violation of national rights :rolleyes::mad:.

Finally, what do you think will happen to the multiple overlapping Arctic border & sea passage disputes? Will U.S. withdrawal help solve the three-way U.S.-Canada-Denmark off-shore territorial dispute? What about the issues other countries have with the Arctic shipping lanes and territorial disagreements?
 
I am more worried about the situation in the *former* Dominion of New England and Cascadia. Both are now within the American hegemony and York will answer to Philadelphia in all but name.
 
And with Scotland threatening to block the Hadrian straits after the Democratic Peoples Republic of Yorkshire's latest weapons test things could get ugly.:(
 
Originally posted by Incognito
What about the issues other countries have with the Arctic shipping lanes and territorial disagreements?

Most of countries in Asia and Europe doesn't care that much about North American arctic lanes. They might be more interested with Eurasiatic ones, but as long as both Russias keep barking at each other (and anyone trying to interfere) that route is not available. Thankfully the New Silk Road seems to be working quite well - it should after CBC, Caliphate and Chinese put so much money in it.

OOC: CBC - Carpathian-Baltic Commonwealth
 
Originally posted by Incognito


Most of countries in Asia and Europe doesn't care that much about North American arctic lanes. They might be more interested with Eurasiatic ones, but as long as both Russias keep barking at each other (and anyone trying to interfere) that route is not available. Thankfully the New Silk Road seems to be working quite well - it should after CBC, Caliphate and Chinese put so much money in it.

OOC: CBC - Carpathian-Baltic Commonwealth

I don't know what the Qing were thinking of when they started investing so soon after the latest civil war. BTW are they still claiming the Manchurian-Siberian dual-monarchy as their own territory?
 

Dirk_Pitt

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I don't know what the Qing were thinking of when they started investing so soon after the latest civil war. BTW are they still claiming the Manchurian-Siberian dual-monarchy as their own territory?

I believe so. But as MS is a US ally I doubt those nutjobs will do anything.

By the way has anyone heard about what the Persian Empire is planning on doing with its nukes... They're not too friendly with the US after what happened in 1983...
 
So after over a decade of War on Terror, the occupation of Canada is finally coming to an end and U.S. troops are leaving the “Great White North” and returning home. Do you guys think it’s the right move? I know the American public is sick of the war and U.S. troops coming back in body bags, but I fear the new Canadian government will not be able to hold out without U.S. backing them up. I can only cross my fingers and hope the new U.S.-trained Canadian military and continued USAF drone strikes can keep the insurgents down and prevent them from overrunning the country.

And what do you think the future holds for U.S.-Denmark relations? Kingdom of Denmark was supposed to be America’s ally in the War on Terror and yet it turned out that while everyone was looking for him in Canada, the mastermind behind the 9/11 attacks was hiding out in Greenland. And when Seal Team Six went in and finally killed him, the Danish authorities claimed it was a violation of Danish sovereignty :mad:! Apparently hiding a wanted terrorist while claiming that you are trying to track him down is A-OK but when someone goes and does what you said you were doing all along, it is a violation of national rights :rolleyes::mad:.

Finally, what do you think will happen to the multiple overlapping Arctic border & sea passage disputes? Will U.S. withdrawal help solve the three-way U.S.-Canada-Denmark off-shore territorial dispute? What about the issues other countries have with the Arctic shipping lanes and territorial disagreements?

OOC: Kinda hate to spoil the party but this sounds like it ought to be moved to ASB......

IC: I know one thing's for sure....no more Danish Havarti shipments for me.....:(:p
 
Originally posted by Dirk_Pitt
I believe so. But as MS is a US ally I doubt those nutjobs will do anything.

No, the nutjob was the emperor who lost that civil war. The present ruler is quite sane and competent, while most certainly unpleasant. (But did you see the picture of his daughter? :eek: What a babe)


By the way has anyone heard about what the Persian Empire is planning on doing with its nukes... They're not too friendly with the US after what happened in 1983...

They still targeted at...pretty much everybody around, but mostly at Caliphate, I think. But to mess with the Caliph is a very bad idea and after the Gulf War Persians know that.
 
The Canadian radicals were aided by the Caliphate yet they didn't get touched one bit by our United American Alliance firepower. So they should be split and from the Nile to the Euphrates given to the Hebrews for their rightful homeland.
 

Incognito

Banned
I am more worried about the situation in the *former* Dominion of New England and Cascadia. Both are now within the American hegemony and York will answer to Philadelphia in all but name.
Well, New Eangland was part of USA proper before the outbreak of the Second US Civil War.

I believe so. But as MS is a US ally I doubt those nutjobs will do anything.
I never understood why US allied with those backward Ungernites rather than the Romanovs.

OOC: so it would seem the two rival Russia's are the Manchurian-Siberian monarchy (empire?) created by Baron Ungern-Sternberg and the Romanov Russian Empire. Just because old Russian Empire being split between Bolshevics and Whites is so pase ;).

The Canadian radicals were aided by the Caliphate yet they didn't get touched one bit by our United American Alliance firepower. So they should be split and from the Nile to the Euphrates given to the Hebrews for their rightful homeland.
Huh? Why would any sane Jews want to move to the mess that is the Middle East? What's wrong with the currently established Jewish-majority nations? :confused:

OOC: what Jewish-majority nations am I talking about? I'll leave that up to you ;). Let's get creative: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_a_Jewish_state
 

Kaptin Kurk

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Originally posted by Incognito


Most of countries in Asia and Europe doesn't care that much about North American arctic lanes. They might be more interested with Eurasiatic ones, but as long as both Russias keep barking at each other (and anyone trying to interfere) that route is not available. Thankfully the New Silk Road seems to be working quite well - it should after CBC, Caliphate and Chinese put so much money in it.

OOC: CBC - Carpathian-Baltic Commonwealth
Huh? Why would any sane Jews want to move to the mess that is the Middle East? What's wrong with the currently established Jewish-majority nations? :confused:

OOC: what Jewish-majority nations am I talking about? I'll leave that up to you ;). Let's get creative: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposals_for_a_Jewish_state

Both Russias my ass. The United Khazar Kingdoms, even the Emperor of the Jews himself, has no legitimate claims to the title of Caesar and you know it. They should get real, give the Orthodox Caesar of Russia back Constantinople, but I don't want to derail the thread by getting into another status of Constiantipole discussion. We know how those all end.
 

Incognito

Banned
Both Russias my ass. The United Khazar Kingdoms, even the Emperor of the Jews himself, has no legitimate claims to the Christian title of Caesar and you know it. They should git real, Christian Caesar of Russia back Constantinople, but I don't want to derail the thread by getting into another Constiantipole discussion. We know how those all end.
OOC: wait, which of the 2 Russias is the Khazar Kingdom? Or are you saying the old Russian Empire is divided even further?

Also, you probably win the thread for resurrecting the Khazars :D. A Jewish state in Southern Russia/Central Asia than?
 

Kaptin Kurk

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OOC: wait, which of the 2 Russias is the Khazar Kingdom? Or are you saying the old Russian Empire is divided even further?

Also, you probably win the thread for resurrecting the Khazars :D. A Jewish state in Southern Russia/Central Asia than?

OOC: I was thinking the 2 Russias would refer to a Western Orthodox Russia, and and Eastern 'Khazar' Russia. The Khazars controlling most of Central Asia, with their Western extreme being Constantinople, for prestige purposes, and the Western Empire controlling must stuff to the Urals. Somehow the Khazar royal family and the Russian royal family got intermingled, so both now claim to rule both states off of obscure claims.

Just to make things interesting, since you said Jewish states plural, I imagined the Khazars being a federal system of various Jewish states, under a constitutional 'Emperor of the Jews' while the Russian is a bit more unitary and absolutist. Anways, the Jewish states control the territory of the Black Sea, from Istanbul East, the "Christain / Orthodox" Caesar controlling the black sea from Istanbul West. And for some wierd reason I can't think of, the Jewish state having as much desire to pretense itself as being the Roman inheritor historically as Christian / Muslim states did, if only because they remained a power state and maybe Judiasm there had a bit more Greco-Roman influence.

China and Mongolia and disputed Siberian territories probably being the Khazar's eastern boarder, so no pacific ports. The Caliphate is to the south.
 
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Incognito

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OOC: I was thinking the 2 Russias would refer to a Western Orthodox Russia, and and Eastern 'Khazar' Russia. The Khazars controlling most of Central Asia, with their Western extreme being Constantinople, for prestige purposes, and the Western Empire controlling must stuff to the Urals. Somehow the Khazar royal family and the Russian royal family got intermingled, so both now claim to rule both states off of obscure claims.

Just to make things interesting, since you said Jewish states plural, I imagined the Khazars being a federal system of various Jewish states, under a constitutional 'Emperor of the Jews' while the Russian is a bit more unitary and absolutist. Anways, the Jewish states control the territory of the Black Sea, from Istanbul East, the "Christain / Orthodox" Caesar controlling the black sea from Istanbul West. And for some wierd reason I can't think of, the Jewish state having as much desire to pretense itself as being the Roman inheritor historically as Christian / Muslim states did, if only because they remained a power state and maybe Judiasm there had a bit more Greco-Roman influence.

China and Mongolia and disputed Siberian territories probably being the Khazar's eastern boarder, so no pacific ports. The Caliphate is to the south.
OOC: But that would require a pre-1900 POD. I was thinking you were going for a Khazan Empire reestablished in 20th century as one of the many "Jewish homeland" proposals.
 
Canada's never going to be peaceful until the Canadian people confront the inherent violence of their brutal "hockey culture".
 
There are no majority Hebrew countries and the United States has not balkenized. The Hebrews want their homeland back in accordance with The Torah and The Prophets.

Your so-called civil war was when the people restored the Constitution as law under President Ron Paul and rogue elements within the Government itself rebelled following one Barack Hussein Sotero Obama and Rudolph Giuliani. They wanted to contuine the war with Canada. New England and any other breakaway state or region was brought back in peacefully when Obama, Giuliani and their allies were arrested for treason.
 

Kaptin Kurk

Banned
OOC: But that would require a pre-1900 POD. I was thinking you were going for a Khazan Empire reestablished in 20th century as one of the many "Jewish homeland" proposals.

OOC: Ooops, you're right. For some reason I thought I was in pre-1900. Anyways, that's a good idea.
 

Incognito

Banned
OOC: Ooops, you're right. For some reason I thought I was in pre-1900. Anyways, that's a good idea.
OOC: now all we have to do is explain how and why they control Constantinople :p

Edit: If this Khazan Empire is centered around Crimean peninsula, I guess it's not inconsivable for them to take Constantinople in some war against Turkey or whomever would control the city at the time. I imagine controlling the Turkish straits would be on top of Khazan's list if they want to avoid being bottled up.
 
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