I walked with you once upon a dream…. or yet another Disney film timeline

What’s This?

A Disney Timeline, featuring a different version of their animated canon.

Haven’t We Seen This All Before?

Kind of. A lot of this is going to be based on the studio’s actual history, but I promise you that there will be unique ideas that you probably won’t expect.

This Will Be in Chronological Order Right?

Uh… no. I have a not-too-unreasonable fear that I won’t finish this and I want to give a good idea what each era of Disney animation is like here. So, we’ll be hopping back and forth a lot through history… maybe that just adds to the fun for you…


Now then, where to begin… oh yes… once upon a time…
 
1. The Snow Queen (1937)
1. The Snow Queen. Film One in the canon. Released December 21, 1937. Directed by David Hand.

Walt Disney always loved Hans Christian Andersen, seeing the Danish author’s work as the potential subject matter of his films. When he finally took up the challenge of deciding upon a fairy tale to adapt into his studio’s first feature film, he considered a number of choices before ultimately settling upon 1844’s The Snow Queen as the story he and his talented team of artists and animators would bring to the screen. The film employs the basic blueprint of Andersen’s story but makes notable changes.

In the Nordic world, live two children named Greta and Kai. We see their innocent childhoods as autumn turns into harsh winter, a winter of immense and everlasting cold. The audience learns that the approach of the villainous Snow Queen is the cause of this miserable change in the climate. The Queen kidnaps Kai and takes him away to her palace in the far north. She plans for him to serve as her heir, dubbing him the Snow Prince and slowly his heart begins to turn into ice.

Only Greta can rescue Kai from his fate and thus sets out to save him. Along the way, she encounters characters who serve as both pantomime comic relief and guides across the winter wonderland, a reindeer with whom she rides on the back of, friendly snow people, and cute animals of the taiga and tundra. Encountering a mystic Sami woman at one point, Greta is informed by her that only an act of true and selfless love will stop this brutal eternal winter. After crossing the forests and plains, she arrives at the ice palace and finds that Kai has seemingly frozen to death. While the Snow Queen gloats at her, Greta innocently kisses Kai’s frozen body which causes him to melt into his pure regular self. Enraged, the queen summons a blizzard which destroys her palace, but she is struck by lightning in the process killing her.

The balance of seasons has returned and the children return home as they watch winter transform into spring around them.

Released in the heart of December 1937, The Snow Queen was an overwhelming critical and commercial success, being the highest-grossing film since The Birth of a Nation. Sergei Eisenstein, a noted fan of the Disney studio’s work called it the greatest film ever made. In animation style and story tone, it somewhat resembles an extended Silly Symphony short. Much praise has been placed upon the technical animation of the snow and other special effects, and for the backgrounds that capture the exotic Scandanavian winter and the gothic, though elegant, ice palace. Andersen purists criticized it for lacking the religious overtones and complex characterization of the original story, but that hasn’t stopped the film from being ubiquitous in popular culture. It has become a winter classic and has been broadcast on television yearly during the holidays for many decades.

Disney would turn to his homeland of the United States for the source of his next feature film. It would also not be the last time he would touch Andersen’s bibliography…
 
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9. Peter Rabbit (1947)
9. Peter Rabbit. Film Nine in the canon. Released September 27, 1947. Directed by Hamilton Luske.

The second world war had placed a large burden upon the studio. No longer could they produce fantasy epics as they had at the beginning of the decade, instead having to manufacture anthology or “package” films that consisted of a series of animated shorts. For a few titles, however, the segments shared a common ground through adapting related short stories from literature.

Walt had seen the beloved Beatrix Potter books as a match made in heaven for his studio to adapt, though in written correspondence with Potter years earlier she showed disinterest. Shortly after her death in 1943, Disney opportunistically purchased the film rights. To his credit, he ordered the animation department to replicate the art style of her illustrations, including the use of watercolor backgrounds, though a cynic might observe that doing so was cheaper than using the standard of oil paints. The movie does not go as far off from the source material of many of the studio’s films.

There are three segments, each around 25 minutes long. The first is an adaptation of The Tale of Peter Rabbit, which is followed by The Tale of Mr. Jeremy Fisher, and The Tale of Pigling Bland. A framing device of a faceless female narrator selecting and opening the books in a live-action library ties the segments together.

The film reflected the light post-war attitude that the studio was taking when it came to their motion pictures. Like most of the package-era films, it was not a large commercial success but was popular and well-liked enough to keep the studio afloat to make more features. Critical reaction was warm, and the characters continue to make appearances in Disney merchandise to this day. The segments often aired separately on the Disney television programs and were also sometimes released on VHS as such.
 
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I have a few questions about TTL.
  1. When does Walt Disney die ITTL?
  2. What happens to 20th Century Fox ITTL?
  3. Who’s the mascot of Disney ITTL?
  4. Will this thread cover other things such as video games too?
 
I have a few questions about TTL.
  1. When does Walt Disney die ITTL?
  2. What happens to 20th Century Fox ITTL?
  3. Who’s the mascot of Disney ITTL?
  4. Will this thread cover other things such as video games too?
Happy to answer!

Walt dies at the same time, being unable to rid himself of his habit of smoking.
I have no concrete plans for Fox, but the merger does not occur here.
Mickey Mouse remains the mascot.
This thread will probably only cover the animated canon.
 
Just found this timeline, and am really enjoying it!

Here’s some questions I have:
- Is Peter Rabbit the Pooh of this TTL?
- Who makes Winnie the Pooh media TTL?
- What’s the voice cast for the movies mentioned so far (I feel like Lucille La Verne would be the Snow Queen)?
 
Just found this timeline, and am really enjoying it!

Here’s some questions I have:
- Is Peter Rabbit the Pooh of this TTL?
- Who makes Winnie the Pooh media TTL?
- What’s the voice cast for the movies mentioned so far (I feel like Lucille La Verne would be the Snow Queen)?

Peter Rabbit is similar, but not to the extent of OTL Pooh. No spinoff films and the like.

There's still a Disney version of Pooh.

I haven't considered voice casts very much.
 
  1. Does Disney still make a Snow White film?
  2. Are there more movies in the animation canon in TTL?
  3. Does Mickey Mouse star in a movie?
There are the same amount of films.

I can't imagine Mickey not slipping in there at some point or another. As for Snow White, I have my ideas...
 
30. Tangled (1991)
30. Tangled. Film Thirty in the canon. Released November 22, 1991. Directed by Gary Trousdale and Kirk Wise.

During its Renaissance, the Walt Disney Studio went through a wide variety of sources as inspiration for their films. The idea of a movie based on a Greek myth had been kicked around for a while before it was finally approved that Gary Trousdale and Kirk Wise would make their directorial debuts bringing the story of Arachne from Ovid's Metamorphosis into animation.

Taking liberties when adapting the story, the plot of the Disney version is such: the mortal woman Arachne challenges the goddess Athena to a weaving contest which she wins. Here the changes occur: Athena in her wrath transforms Arachne into a small spider. With the help of a man named Nick, who serves as a love interest, Arachne must return to her human form, besting the vengeful Olympian in the process. The film was praised for its storytelling, characters, and visual arts. Great care was taken to recreate Ancient Greece in all its glory through the backgrounds, and the animation of the characters is among the best of the Early Renaissance Period. Particular standouts include James Baxter's animation of Arachne and Andreas Deja's of the egotistical Athena. The film's title, of course, references the tangled threads of both fabric and spider silk that form key components of the plot.

Tangled was a departure from the standard formula through its lack of musical numbers, but that caused it to be no less beloved by both adults and children. A true blockbuster, being one of the highest-grossing films of 1991, it additionally proved to be a critical darling, further evidence that Disney had returned to a golden age of animated films.
 
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  1. Are there any notable songs in The Snow Queen?
  2. Is Greta considered an official Disney Princess?
  3. Does the Disney Renaissance last longer than in OTL?
 
  1. Are there any notable songs in The Snow Queen?
  2. Is Greta considered an official Disney Princess?
  3. Does the Disney Renaissance last longer than in OTL?

Frank Churchill and Larry Morey wrote the original songs for The Snow Queen, the album proved to be a hit. And yes, Greta is an honorary Princess.

The Renaissance lasts longer, into the early 2000s. While not all the films from this era are musicals, Howard Ashman still plays his role. In this timeline, his HIV infection is butterflied away and thus he lives longer.
 
30. Tangled. Film Thirty in the canon. Released November 22, 1991. Directed by Gary Trousdale and Kirk Wise.

During its Ressenissance, the Walt Disney Studio went through a wide variety of sources as inspiration for their films. The idea of a movie based on a Greek myth had been kicked around for a while before it was finally approved that Gary Trousdale and Kirk Wise would make their directorial debuts bringing the story of Arachne from Ovid's Metamorphosis into animation.

Taking liberties when adapting the story, the plot of the Disney version is such: the mortal woman Arachne challenges the goddess Athena to a weaving contest which she wins. Here the changes occur: Athena in her wrath transforms Arachne into a small spider. With the help of a man named Nick, who serves as a love interest, Arachne must return to her human form, besting the vengeful Olympian in the process. The film was praised for its storytelling, characters, and visual arts. Great care was taken to recreate Ancient Greece in all its glory through the backgrounds, and the animation of the characters is among the best of the Early Resseanince Period. Particular standouts include James Baxter's animation of Arachne and Andreas Deja's of the egotistical Athena. The film's title, of course, references the tangled threads of both fabric and spider silk that form key components of the plot.

Tangled was a departure from the standard formula through its lack of musical numbers, but that caused it to be no less beloved by both adults and children. A true blockbuster, being one of the highest-grossing films of 1991, it additionally proved to be a critical darling, further evidence that Disney had returned to a golden age of animated films.
Ressenissance?
Also...the love interest's name is...Nick? In a film with characters such as Arachne and Athena?
 
25. Something Wicked This Way Comes (1985)
25. Something Wicked This Way Comes. Film Twenty-Five in the canon. Released July 24, 1985. Directed by Ted Berman and Richard Rich.

"By the pricking of my thumbs, something wicked this way comes..."

So goes a witch in Shakespeare's Macbeth, it is that line from which Ray Bradbury's 1962 novel gets its title. Bradbury certainly seems an unlikely writer to adapt into Disney animation, but the legendary sci-fi author was in fact a close friend of Walt's. In the early 1980s, Disney's live-action unit had headed into a more mature direction under the leadership of CEO Ron Miller, animation also took a brief detour into the more macabre. The film, which would become one of the more obscure and infamous entries in the canon, is a fairly close adaptation of the book, Bradbury himself wrote the screenplay.

Set in the Midwestern village of Green Town in the 1920s, the story centers around two boys named Jim and Will. One fine autumn day a mysterious, supernatural carnival comes to town, run by the eerie Mr. Dark. The carnival begins to have a strange and sinister influence upon the townspeople, with people being drawn to a carousel that when ridden alters the age of the passengers. The boys deduce that Mr. Dark is draining the townsfolk of their lives and that danger is afoot. As the days go by, Dark begins to stalk the boys and uses his occult powers to attack them several times, each instance the boys narrowly escaping with their lives. With the help of Will's father, Charles, and a lightning rod salesman called Tom Fury, the boys eventually succeed in defeating Dark's circus minions. In the climax, Jim is about to be sacrificed at the carousel by Dark, but is rescued by Will. A tornado strikes the carnival grounds, causing the ride to malfunction with Mr. Dark on it, aging him to dust. Everything wicked is swept away by the tempest, and the boys celebrate the defeat of their foe.

The scary imagery of the film earned it the reputation of being one of Disney's most frightening cartoons, with many reports of children running into movie theater lobbies screaming in terror at scenes with Mr. Dark and his henchmen. The new company management, Micheal Eisner and Jeffery Katzenberg, didn't have the faith in the film as Miller had, this helped result in it being a box office bomb. The heavy production costs, due to all the special effects, meant that Something Wicked only made half of its budget back. Animation at Disney was nearly in the grave, but the commercial success of the next few films would ensure that it would survive.

Unlike other films in the canon, the home video release was greatly delayed due to the horror elements and the film's supposed unpopularity, this long unavailability only added to its mystique among Disney fans. Today, it's something of a cult classic with an occasional broadcast on Disney Channel around Halloween. Bradbury himself was greatly impressed with the final product calling it, "one of the more decent adaptations of my work."
 
  1. Does Something Wicked This Way Comes use rotoscoping for the character animation?
  2. Are there any Black Cauldron adaptations TTL?
  3. Does Disney create their first CGI animated film eariler in TTL?
  4. Will Disney still make a Hercules film in TTL?
 
  1. Does Something Wicked This Way Comes use rotoscoping for the character animation?
  2. Are there any Black Cauldron adaptations TTL?
  3. Does Disney create their first CGI animated film eariler in TTL?
  4. Will Disney still make a Hercules film in TTL?

1. Not to a greater extent than any other Disney film of the era.
2. Yes, but not by Disney.
3. The first one is released in 2000.
4. I think Hercules has been butterflied away.
 
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