Hungary in a France Does Not Fall Scenario

If France does not fall, will Hungary join the war on Nazi Germany's side? Will they stay neutral or join the allies?
 
If the Nazis collapse, they might try for Slovakia, especially if the Soviets are coming, as they can use the pretext of protecting the Slovaks from Communism. Maybe the Burgenland. Other than that, I suspect they remain neutral and become a smaller Franco/Mussolini until they get overthrown or the government gives up power. Maybe the Regency finally ends and they actually bring a Hapsburg back, especially if Franco and the Italians do the same.
 
If France does not fall, that means, that static war emerges on the Western Front, right? Well, Hungary definately won't join the Axis, that's for sure and it would continue it's rearmament program, which by 1942 could transform the Hungarian Army into a more formidable force, maybe on paar with Romania's. If Germany seems to lose the war, then it's highly likely, that Hungary would jump in and grab Burgenland and Slovakia, however another even more likely sceniario is that a war breaks out between Hungary and Romania during this time, either in '42 or '43. That war could end either way, but if the Hungarians manage to be successful, than they could even attack Germany, if that's about to lose.
 
however another even more likely sceniario is that a war breaks out between Hungary and Romania during this time, either in '42 or '43. That war could end either way, but if the Hungarians manage to be successful, than they could even attack Germany, if that's about to lose.
If that happens Bulgaria and Soviet Union will likely hop in
 
If that happens Bulgaria and Soviet Union will likely hop in
Very true. That could quicken the war atleast. Romania would lose for certain. The peace deal would probably look like this: The Hungarians take entire Transylvania, the Bulgarians grab the whole Dobruja, while the Soviets get Bessarabia or even whole Moldavia. This would reduce Romania to Wallachia, which would be a pretty intense sceniario, if you ask me (not as intense as OTL WW2, but still). I wonder if the Bulgarians and Hungarians would push for a relocation of Romanians from within their new borders..
 
if you ask me (not as intense as OTL WW2, but still). I wonder if the Bulgarians and Hungarians would push for a relocation of Romanians from within their new borders..
They would , I imagine the rump Romania would be an overpopulated hellhole with all the refugees from Hungary , Bulgaria and the Soviet Union and the Destruction from war and the lack of aid to rebuild
 
They would , I imagine the rump Romania would be an overpopulated hellhole with all the refugees from Hungary , Bulgaria and the Soviet Union and the Destruction from war and the lack of aid to rebuild
The Romanians from Hungary and Bulgaria could be relocated in the Soviet Union as well though, but yeah, overcrowdedness would be still an issue regardless.

After Romania, could Yugoslavia be a new target? I imagine a tripartite invasion by Italy, Hungary and Bulgaria.
 
Italian investors were deep into Romanian industry & Mussolinis policy had been the Rumanians were fellow Romans. If the Italians remain neutral or are part of the Allied camp that would affect Hungarian actions vs Romania.
 
If France does not fall, that means, that static war emerges on the Western Front, right? Well, Hungary definately won't join the Axis, that's for sure and it would continue it's rearmament program, which by 1942 could transform the Hungarian Army into a more formidable force, maybe on paar with Romania's. If Germany seems to lose the war, then it's highly likely, that Hungary would jump in and grab Burgenland and Slovakia, however another even more likely sceniario is that a war breaks out between Hungary and Romania during this time, either in '42 or '43. That war could end either way, but if the Hungarians manage to be successful, than they could even attack Germany, if that's about to lose.
Actually if France doesn't fall in my opinion Hungary wouldn't go for Slovakia. Firstly. Hungary already gained all territories with Hungarian majority in Slovakia and Ruthenia. Secondly, Hungary tried in March 1939, so called Little war, and even when gaining some small teritories in Eastern Slovakia against basically not existing Slovak army prooves were not so good.
Also If France holds, there is possibility Czechoslovak state will be recreated, with occupation of whole Slovakia to hold gains from 1938 and possibly 1939 would be harder.

In my opinion Hungary wouldn't even go for Transylvania. Romania had still some support from France and Britain.
Also interestingly Slovaks and Romanians were negotiating so attack on Slovakia may bring Romanians in. After all they put their troops on alert even in March 1939.

Honestly Hungary played great diplomatic game up to 1940 and gained a lot with minimal military involvement. There is huge chance if they not got involved or got involved only against Germans when they are loosing they may be able to keep these gains.

Even if Czechoslovakia was resurected in this scenerio, Prague may be willing to drop Ruthenia and southern Slovakia.
Slovaks probably too as years 1939 and 1940 showed Slovakia can live without them. Though there was iridentism in play. OTL in 1944 Slovakia was preparing to side with Germany in possible occupation of Hungary in order to regain lost territories.
If support for Czechoslovakia is big enough small renegotiation could be possibly pressed on Hungary to cede some territories gained in 1938 and 1939 with Slovak majority.
 
If France does not fall Soviets would still join war against Germany when fall of Third Reich became obvious to use opportunity to grab Central Europe.
 
You know, like a slugfest worse than the WWI trench warfare episodes in Northern France and Belgium from June 1940 until 1942 (early 1943 at the latest).
 
You know, like a slugfest worse than the WWI trench warfare episodes in Northern France and Belgium from June 1940 until 1942 (early 1943 at the latest).

No the Germans are far too short on resources to prosecute a war like that. In the event of a failed Sickles cut Germanies bolt is shot after that the Wallies still have the task of defeating German forces in the low countries and advancing into Germany itself
 
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