How would the Nuremberg trial have changed if Hitler, Himmler and Goebbels were captured?

Except you'd be giving a very public platform to a man recognized as one of the greatest orators of his day in the hopes that he'd screw it up. Maybe you'd win that gamble, with Hitler proving to be a broken half-senile old man, a mockery of the Fuhrer who once held Germany in thrall. . . and maybe Hitler would summon his demonic powers for one last series of harangues and you'd horribly lose your bet, allowing the man to control how he was immortalized in his final days.

You could be risking a great deal if you gave Hitler a final public platform to speak in his defense.
I think it really is a lose-lose situation as everything with Hitler. If reports of his last days are to be trusted, add depression from beeing captured, he really wont be fit to stand trial. What then?Make him and kill him anyway? He sure deserves it, but you dont want this to seem cruel.
Alternatively he improves from getting rid of his personal doctor. Even more dangerous.
 
No way in hell are they going to Nuremberg if they were captured. Berlin was surrounded by the Red Army. Anyone who was in there had to suffer the indignity of Soviet captivity if they were captured alive.
Stalin would keep the three most hated men in Europe, all for himself. Sure, the Western powers would object to that, but they couldn't do anything to convince Stalin otherwise. Hitler, Himmler and Goebbels would be lucky if they get a show trial. They'd be probably be hanged in the middle of Moscow or Leningrad for all to see without trial, as soon as they are brought into the USSR. I wouldn't be surprised if Stalin pulled the trapdoor lever himself.
 
No way in hell are they going to Nuremberg if they were captured. Berlin was surrounded by the Red Army. Anyone who was in there had to suffer the indignity of Soviet captivity if they were captured alive.
Stalin would keep the three most hated men in Europe, all for himself. Sure, the Western powers would object to that, but they couldn't do anything to convince Stalin otherwise. Hitler, Himmler and Goebbels would be lucky if they get a show trial. They'd be probably be hanged in the middle of Moscow or Leningrad for all to see without trial, as soon as they are brought into the USSR. I wouldn't be surprised if Stalin pulled the trapdoor lever himself.
Himmler was captured by the Brits IOTL, so there's that
 

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I think it would change allot

With there suicides Hitler, Himmler and Goebbels made themselves martyrs for National socialism and coming generation of Neo-nazi
but to see the three on trail, special Goebbels walking with his clubfoot, or Himmler try defense like Eichman and a sick tremulous Hitler rampages on.
that would be a hell of legacy for National socialism and not so much people would have interest in those losers...

What are the consequences for the rise of neo-nazi movements ? Would there be a sense of Hitler's martyrdom or something else ?

At the risk of bringing more current matters into this thread I dare say there would be no change in Neo-Nazi movements, either back then or at the present day. The kinds of people who subscribe to Neo-Nazism are either desperate renegade losers looking for a source of power to attach themselves to, are relatively stable individuals that are fearful of change and people who are different, or are outright mentally ill or have personality disorders that impair their thinking. Putting Hitler on the stand won't change the appeal of Neo-Nazism because only a small few are willing to entertain such an ideology in the first place.
 
No way in hell are they going to Nuremberg if they were captured. Berlin was surrounded by the Red Army. Anyone who was in there had to suffer the indignity of Soviet captivity if they were captured alive.
Stalin would keep the three most hated men in Europe, all for himself. Sure, the Western powers would object to that, but they couldn't do anything to convince Stalin otherwise. Hitler, Himmler and Goebbels would be lucky if they get a show trial. They'd be probably be hanged in the middle of Moscow or Leningrad for all to see without trial, as soon as they are brought into the USSR. I wouldn't be surprised if Stalin pulled the trapdoor lever himself.

Oh, they'd get show trials. That was the way Stalin rolled.

Hell, if Hitler died in Soviet custody, they'd pull a Cadaver Synod and hang his corpse.
 
I think it really is a lose-lose situation as everything with Hitler. If reports of his last days are to be trusted, add depression from beeing captured, he really wont be fit to stand trial. What then?Make him and kill him anyway? He sure deserves it, but you dont want this to seem cruel.
Alternatively he improves from getting rid of his personal doctor. Even more dangerous.

Looking at wikipedia...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Denazification#Surveys

  • In 1946, 37% in the US occupation zone said about the Holocaust that "the extermination of the Jews and Poles and other non-Aryans was necessary for the security of Germans".
  • In 1952, 37% said Germany was better off without the Jews on its territory.
  • In 1952, 25% had a good opinion of Hitler.
  • In 1953, 14% of Germans said they would vote for someone like Hitler again.

This really should speak for itself. Along with the consideration that many were afraid of sharing their views for fear of retaliation.
 
I can see the Nuremberg Trials being split in two with Hitler, Goring, Himmler, and Goebbels in the main trial along with some of the other top Nazis like Speer, von Ribbintop and others and in the second part of the Trials the lesser members of the original defendants.
This could either lead to harsher sentences to some like Speer if he is in the main trial with Hitler or it could mean that more lenient sentences to those who were in the original trial but are not in the main trail as the Four Powers could be satisfied by getting the top four or five leaders of the Nazi regime in the noose.
 
Oh what I'd give to see some footage of that meth-addled buffoon showing his infirmity/insanity to the world in beautiful black and white....
"Those damn foreigners drugged him and poisoned him because they didn't want the world to hear his message! Or it's a clone/impersonator! The real Fuhrer is being tortured in the Kremlin!"
 
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