TFSmith121
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And, of course, the Parliament gets burned down by Orange mobs...
EnglishCanuck - If you lived in Montreal...and happened to be a either a wealthy Torie who had a vested interest in opposing the abolition of Corn Laws or one of the few remaining die hard patriotes...
Of course it's is just a minor coincidence that support for the movement died out when the Canadian–American Reciprocity Treaty was signed in 1854 right?
Wouldn't make one wonder at all if it was just some political arm twisting by colonial elites
And, of course, itas the same year the Parliament gets burned down by Orange mobs, but no, everything was perfectly quiet in the Province...other than it being second only to South Africa among the "white dominions" in terms of blood being spilled and political violence.
Well not that American banks had relied on specie payments or anything, or that the mere threat of war almost caused a stock market crash. I mean of course whose to say that a nation undergoing inflation needs foreign investment/materials/expertise in building new weapons and financing a war right?
Especially because the suspension of specie payments lasted until the mid-1870s...Hint: the Cross of Gold and Free Silver was an issue because?
The American banks were just dutifully churning out scrip to pay Washington's troops in 1775-83 right? I mean it's almost like those weren't British cities
Boston, Philadelphia, and New York British cities? Really? When was the last time the British had a military governor in London, Manchester, or York?
And got bogged down in winter...before being repulsed by a British fleet. The the Americans couldn't manage even that with over 9x as many men and far more resources. In fact they somehow managed to do worse.
Amazingly enough, situations change over time. Shocking, I know. Hence my "this could be done at this point, and that at that point" posts above, based on the historical record.
The American military of the 1860s might be an entirely different creature, but the idea they could drive all before them and somehow reach Quebec City before a second snow fall depends on everything going utterly wrong for the British and the Americans not making one single mistake in the entire campaign. Just stretches the fabric of belief a tad no? Add to that a larger, more experienced, faster ocean traversing force unencumbered by a major war a world away...
Who has argued Plattsburgh to Quebec in one season?
Makes you wonder what the British could accomplish with sixty thousand men and steam engines.
Presumably, something less than what the other guys could accomplish with at least twice as many men and steam engines, plus whoever showed up from the Great White North - especially when the British strategy involved a two front war.
That aside there is a reason I cite 1890 as the beginning of the point where the US could hope to take Canada through sheer force of arms.
And that reason is?
Best,
EnglishCanuck - If you lived in Montreal...and happened to be a either a wealthy Torie who had a vested interest in opposing the abolition of Corn Laws or one of the few remaining die hard patriotes...
Of course it's is just a minor coincidence that support for the movement died out when the Canadian–American Reciprocity Treaty was signed in 1854 right?
Wouldn't make one wonder at all if it was just some political arm twisting by colonial elites
And, of course, itas the same year the Parliament gets burned down by Orange mobs, but no, everything was perfectly quiet in the Province...other than it being second only to South Africa among the "white dominions" in terms of blood being spilled and political violence.
Well not that American banks had relied on specie payments or anything, or that the mere threat of war almost caused a stock market crash. I mean of course whose to say that a nation undergoing inflation needs foreign investment/materials/expertise in building new weapons and financing a war right?
Especially because the suspension of specie payments lasted until the mid-1870s...Hint: the Cross of Gold and Free Silver was an issue because?
The American banks were just dutifully churning out scrip to pay Washington's troops in 1775-83 right? I mean it's almost like those weren't British cities
Boston, Philadelphia, and New York British cities? Really? When was the last time the British had a military governor in London, Manchester, or York?
And got bogged down in winter...before being repulsed by a British fleet. The the Americans couldn't manage even that with over 9x as many men and far more resources. In fact they somehow managed to do worse.
Amazingly enough, situations change over time. Shocking, I know. Hence my "this could be done at this point, and that at that point" posts above, based on the historical record.
The American military of the 1860s might be an entirely different creature, but the idea they could drive all before them and somehow reach Quebec City before a second snow fall depends on everything going utterly wrong for the British and the Americans not making one single mistake in the entire campaign. Just stretches the fabric of belief a tad no? Add to that a larger, more experienced, faster ocean traversing force unencumbered by a major war a world away...
Who has argued Plattsburgh to Quebec in one season?
Makes you wonder what the British could accomplish with sixty thousand men and steam engines.
Presumably, something less than what the other guys could accomplish with at least twice as many men and steam engines, plus whoever showed up from the Great White North - especially when the British strategy involved a two front war.
That aside there is a reason I cite 1890 as the beginning of the point where the US could hope to take Canada through sheer force of arms.
And that reason is?
Best,