How would a Baltic Prussia develop?

Well assume that in a Napoleon victory TL, Prussia was stripped of Silesia and its Polish portion of the third partition then later gained the Baltic territories in an alternate Crimean war against Russia (as the map below, not mine). How would this Prussia develop? With the establishment of the Confederation of the Rhine as a close ally of France, I imagine they would actively promote Pan-Balticism instead of Pan-Germanism even though the official language would still be German. The capital might or might not move to Konigsberg. I know they wouldn't be as strong as OTL Prussia but would the Baltic territories be enough for them to be at least a regional power?

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That map implies a much earlier PoD with Novgorod and the HRE still existing, right?

Anyway, assuming the Napoleonic PoD instead how does it avoid Russian aggression? They’ll be gunning for it and I suspect no one will be rushing to their aid...
 
That map implies a much earlier PoD with Novgorod and the HRE still existing, right?

Anyway, assuming the Napoleonic PoD instead how does it avoid Russian aggression? They’ll be gunning for it and I suspect no one will be rushing to their aid...
Perhaps the OP is merely using an older mp as an illustration of the new Prussian borders, but with everywhere else as it was in the 19th century.
 
Would Prussia be under a French king? The Napoleonic French would have to be very trusting to give any additional territory to Prussia under the Hohenzollerns.
 
Well assume that in a Napoleon victory TL, Prussia was stripped of Silesia and its Polish portion of the third partition then later gained the Baltic territories in an alternate Crimean war against Russia (as the map below, not mine).

Taking into an account that neither Napoleonic Wars nor Crimean War resulted in any noticeable loss of the Russian territory, how exactly Prussia defeated by Napoleon and stripped of big part of its territory manages not just defeat Russian Empire but to gain all its Baltic territories without an active help from the friendly ASB? The premise has to have at least some traction with a reality.

How would this Prussia develop? With the establishment of the Confederation of the Rhine as a close ally of France, I imagine they would actively promote Pan-Balticism instead of Pan-Germanism even though the official language would still be German. The capital might or might not move to Konigsberg. I know they wouldn't be as strong as OTL Prussia but would the Baltic territories be enough for them to be at least a regional power?

Regional power capable of a major conquest of the Russian territory?
 
Taking into an account that neither Napoleonic Wars nor Crimean War resulted in any noticeable loss of the Russian territory, how exactly Prussia defeated by Napoleon and stripped of big part of its territory manages not just defeat Russian Empire but to gain all its Baltic territories without an active help from the friendly ASB? The premise has to have at least some traction with a reality.

Regional power capable of a major conquest of the Russian territory?

It's fine if you refer to this Crimean war as an earlier version of WW1 and Prussia was on the winning side. I'm not particular dead set on the POD, I'm mostly curious about its development with such territories. And let's assume that Russia was crippled after the war, losing territories to several other countries as well so Prussia would not be their primary target for vengeance.

Perhaps the OP is merely using an older mp as an illustration of the new Prussian borders, but with everywhere else as it was in the 19th century.

Yes, it's just as you said.
 
I know they wouldn't be as strong as OTL Prussia but would the Baltic territories be enough for them to be at least a regional power?
No. Nothing against the Baltics but they do not have enough population or resources to make the nation controlling them an important industrial age power.
 
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No. Nothing against the Baltics but they have not enough population or resources to make the nation controlling them an important industrial age power.

Not to mention that the only common component of these territories were the German-speaking upper and middle classes: the native languages and cultures of Latvia and Estonia (in modern terms) are different which means that by the late XIX the growing national movements are going to start tearing this pseudo-Prussia apart and the state is too small to keep subduing them for a long time.
 
No. Nothing against the Baltics but they have not enough population or resources to make the nation controlling them an important industrial age power.

Not to mention that the only common component of these territories were the German-speaking upper and middle classes: the native languages and cultures of Latvia and Estonia (in modern terms) are different which means that by the late XIX the growing national movements are going to start tearing this pseudo-Prussia apart and the state is too small to keep subduing them for a long time.

Okay thanks for the input.
 
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