How will modern Europeans react to a 1st world Assyrian country deep within Central Europe?

[Spencer19]

What if some ancient Assyrians went and settled deep within Central Europe before the first Persian empire even existed then they fully established a classic powerful ancient Assyrian civilization there with a classic ruthless brutal professional ancient Assyrian military? They were unconquered and uninfluenced by foreigners up to the modern age. They stayed culturally pure and Assyrian up to the modern age with the only changes being that are good in modern morality and they respect modern human rights. They also stayed ethnically pure up to the modern age.

Then their descendants, the modern Assyrians are a first world country in the modern age because they are extremely good in education, economy, technology, health, government, security, etc. They are also a superpower in the modern age and they have one of the deadliest and most highly trained special forces in the whole world.

Their country is highly disciplined, their country is safe, they have low crime rate, they have no wars inside their country, and they have low corruption. They sided with the Allies against the Axis Powers during WW2 but they are neutral in the current war between the Allies and the communists.

These modern Assyrians are extremely culturally and ethnically proud of being Assyrians and Middle Easterners especially when it came to their ancestors.

So how will modern Europeans and other Westerners such as the European Powers and the USA react to this powerful prosperous modern Assyrian country that is deep within Central Europe?

 

[BlackKaiser]

...So they were somehow untouched by the outside world for thousands of years, but they modernized and became a superpower in no time because...reasons?
Then sign their death warrant by opposing the Axis in the middle of their territory?
And they behave like a modern liberal democracy, but there's still any doubt how the rest of the 1st world acts towards their former ally?

What?

 

[SilihdarHB]

Yeah, superpowers don't just come to be ex nihilo. This very existence of this state throws a half-ton of fluttering butterflies into European history that I doubt unified, Nazi Germany could even come to happen in this situation.

 

[Terço]

I think that is easy to create an iranic Alania spread all over the Pannonian Basin .
It's an idea for a thread that i never had the time to develop .
Imagine that the alans migrate in larger numbers than Otl to central europe and eventually an iranic speaking catholic state comes to dominate an area that as all the conditions to be a major european power .

 

[Lalli]

How and why Assyrians even would end to Central Europe, far far from their native lands? It doesn't make much of sense.

And I can't see such empire survivivng. Too much negiboring enemy tribes and rising kingdoms and probably too instabel to be viable. And such thing would change European and world's history very unrecognsible. Not way that Assyrian state displaced to Central Europe wouldn't cause gigantic butterflies.

Whole scenario seems really ASB if then OP can't explain why Assyrians are coming to Central Europe.

 

[SealTheRealDeal]

This should be ASB, or at least pre-1900.

 

[PakistaniGuyUK]

Christian Balkan Europeans would probably genocide them way before they could become anywhere close to resembling First World. Let's face it, they probably wouldn't even remember or care for what they did unless the shoe was on the other foot, then for sure we'd be reminded of what happened every time someone mentioned the word "Assyrian."

 

[Aghasverov]

According to some of the adherents of the "British Israelite"/"Christian Identity" movement(s), there is already a sizable 1st World Assyrian State within Central Europe 🤣

 

[CalBear]

Actually they will be indistinguishable from any other European "national group", although they may have had an impact on language, although after 5,000 years it is an open question. They would certainly not be some special superpower, not unless this was meant to be in ASB.

 

[YYJ]

They were… uninfluenced by foreigners up to the modern age.

Then their descendants, the modern Assyrians are a first world country in the modern age because they are extremely good in education, economy, technology, health, government, security, etc.

These qualities, isolation and advancement, don’t generally go together, because the spread of technology passes from culture to culture, unless these folk indigenously develop all their own tech. Which looks like a MU Black Panther/Wakanda scenario.

The spread of technology also has social influences, like slavery declined and then was generally outlawed after the adoption of the steam engine.

That being said, it is clearly possible to maintain a strong cultural identity while being surrounded by neighbours.

 

[ArtosStark]

I am honestly less concerned with how they got there than with how they managed to remain isolated for about 3500 years. Central Europe is not some black hole where civilizations (particularly advanced ones) just disappear without contact. How would they manage to avoid all contact with the long line of cultures that were settled in the region or constantly moving through it?

 

[MrHappy]

The only real-life example of this that quickly comes to my mind is Japan. Japan managed a couple hundred years (+/-) of isolationism. That policy worked right up until a modern navy sailed into one of if ports and informed the Japanese it was time for a new policy. About 15 minutes later Japanese could be seen wearing blue jeans and white tennis shoes standing in line at the new McDonalds. OK, I exaggerate a bit.

Sorry, I forgot about Wakanda. That changes everything I just wrote. Wakanda Forever!

 

[Spencer19]

...So they were somehow untouched by the outside world for thousands of years, but they modernized and became a superpower in no time because...reasons?

What?

They learned to be modern and superpower by learning from and observing foreigners outside. They don't necessarily have to be conquered.

I mean look at Japan. Modern Japanese aren't Westernized as Latin Americans but they are still modern.

 

[Spencer19]

Yeah, superpowers don't just come to be ex nihilo. This very existence of this state throws a half-ton of fluttering butterflies into European history that I doubt unified, Nazi Germany could even come to happen in this situation.

I didn't explicity say that these ancient Assyrians were an empire in the ancient age. I only said that they are a superpower in the modern age.

 

[Spencer19]

I think that is easy to create an iranic Alania spread all over the Pannonian Basin .
It's an idea for a thread that i never had the time to develop .
Imagine that the alans migrate in larger numbers than Otl to central europe and eventually an iranic speaking catholic state comes to dominate an area that as all the conditions to be a major european power .

Ancient Assyrians are Semites while Iranians are Indo-Europeans. Two very different peoples.

 

[Spencer19]

How and why Assyrians even would end to Central Europe, far far from their native lands? It doesn't make much of sense.

And I can't see such empire survivivng. Too much negiboring enemy tribes and rising kingdoms and probably too instabel to be viable. And such thing would change European and world's history very unrecognsible. Not way that Assyrian state displaced to Central Europe wouldn't cause gigantic butterflies.

Whole scenario seems really ASB if then OP can't explain why Assyrians are coming to Central Europe.

I didn't ask if the ancient Assyrians are able to survive deep within ancient Central Europe. I am only asking how modern Europeans will react to their modern first world culturally Middle Eastern country deep within Central Europe.

Also, I don't see why ancient Assyrians can't end up in ancient Central Europe. It's almost seems like you're saying that ancient Assyrians have no legs, boats, wheels, arms, and horses to be able to get to ancient Central Europe.

I also didn't explicitly say that these ancient Assyrians of mine were an empire deep within ancient Central Europe. I only explicitly said that they are a civilization with a classic professional ancient Assyrian military. Civilization isn't the same as empire.

 

[Spencer19]

Christian Balkan Europeans would probably genocide them way before they could become anywhere close to resembling First World. Let's face it, they probably wouldn't even remember or care for what they did unless the shoe was on the other foot, then for sure we'd be reminded of what happened every time someone mentioned the word "Assyrian."

This is literally changing the topic. I didn't ask if the ancient Assyrians will survive Central Europe. I only asked how modern Europeans will react to a modern first world Assyrian country deep within Central Europe. Stop changing the topic.

 

[Spencer19]

They would certainly not be some special superpower, not unless this was meant to be in ASB.

How exactly can you come to the conclusion that they will not be a superpower? Why? Because you think that only Europeans are able to be a superpower because they're Europeans? 😂

Also, why would you even say that they will be indistinguishable from Europeans despite the fact that I said that they stayed ethnically pure?

 

[YYJ]

Given your backstory, I imagine these Assyrians would be viewed the same as Finns or Hungarians, or for that matter the descendants of the Franks and Goths and Visigoths who are usually not seen as being from somewhere other than Europe, because they have been in place for so damn long.

By your OP having them live there for millennia, they would be just be seen as some other Europeans. There would have been rivalries and wars over the centuries, but you are talking about today, as I read the question. So any xenophobia that you might be wondering about would be butterflied away by their continual presence.

 

[YYJ]

How exactly can you come to the conclusion that they will not be a superpower? Why? Because you think that only Europeans are able to be a superpower because they're Europeans? 😂

Also, why would you even say that they will be indistinguishable from Europeans despite the fact that I said that they stayed ethnically pure?

In your scenario, they would be Europeans, by definition. In the same way that Jews and Roma etc, are Europeans, except your Assyrians have an enduring European nation state.