What POD is needed to unite all of Iberia? The two that come to mind for me at least are the Spanish invasion during the 7 years war and a Napoleonic victory in the Peninsular war.
How to get Spain and Portugal as one Country?
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They were united in 1580. Have the Spanish make a greater effort to integrate Portugal during the 60 years before the Portugese restoration and you might butterfly it away.
The best way for both countries to unite is to avoid the Islamic invasions altogether and try to assimilate the Sueves into Visigothic culture.
The easiest by far would be the survival of Miguel de la Paz, son of Manuel I of Portugal and Isabella of Aragon. Isabella was the eldest daughter of Ferdinand II of Aragon and Isabelle I of Castille: she was heiress to both Castille and Aragon when her brother Juan died. Miguel would have inherited the three Kingdoms of Castille, Aragon and Portugal eventually. Unless Miguel were to die childless, the union would probably last long after his death.
The second choice is to have Spain keep control of Portugal under the Hapsburgs. That being said, it's a bit harder to achieve, especially given the policies of the Hapsburgs in Spain.
The second choice is to have Spain keep control of Portugal under the Hapsburgs. That being said, it's a bit harder to achieve, especially given the policies of the Hapsburgs in Spain.
The most radical way
The most radical way to achieve what the OP needs is to prevent the emergence of the Portuguese State, which originated in the Portucalense County.
Historical background and circumstances in which the political system Iberico
dtermino evolved and the emergence of Portugal as a state with its own national identity.
The future existence of the Portuguese State was not actually predetermined and the Portucalense County in 1071, which would be his predecessor had disappeared as an autonomous part of the Kingdom of Leon, because of the traditional division that I make King Ferdinand to his death in 1065 as the Iberian Medieval monarchs were accustomed to perform, the territory of the county portucalense was linked politically to the Kingdom of Galicia.
County would return later to exist because of the ambition of King Alfonso VI of Leon that parental States reconstituted again and then when King García of Galicia died (after being imprisoned by order of his brother Alfonso) in 1091, the territories in his possession passed into the hands of Raymond of Burgundy who came to responding to the call Leon Alfonso VI made to European Christianity with the intention to organize a crusade against the Almoravids and became the king's son to marry Leon Urraca The future queen of Leon and Castile between 1109 and 1126.
In 1093 Count Raymond took over the defense of Santarém, Lisbon and Sintra and was appointed governor of the province Gallecie comprising not only the lands of northeastern Spain ... but also called''territorium Portucalense''.
*whose limits are extended to the river Tagus
*due to the incorporation of the leonine kingdom spaces Santarém, Lisbon and Sintra, conquered the Taifa of Badajoz in the year 1092.
Because of this need for a more effective defense on that border of the Kingdom of Leon against the Almoravides and keep the defensive line of the river Tajo that became very difficult after the loss of the city of Lisbon, mission in which Raymond of Burgundy was not succeeding.
In December 1094, King Alfonso and had remarried, this time with Berta,''una Noble Italian and therefore away from the Burgundian influence. ''
The most radical way to achieve what the OP needs is to prevent the emergence of the Portuguese State, which originated in the Portucalense County.
Historical background and circumstances in which the political system Iberico
dtermino evolved and the emergence of Portugal as a state with its own national identity.
The future existence of the Portuguese State was not actually predetermined and the Portucalense County in 1071, which would be his predecessor had disappeared as an autonomous part of the Kingdom of Leon, because of the traditional division that I make King Ferdinand to his death in 1065 as the Iberian Medieval monarchs were accustomed to perform, the territory of the county portucalense was linked politically to the Kingdom of Galicia.
County would return later to exist because of the ambition of King Alfonso VI of Leon that parental States reconstituted again and then when King García of Galicia died (after being imprisoned by order of his brother Alfonso) in 1091, the territories in his possession passed into the hands of Raymond of Burgundy who came to responding to the call Leon Alfonso VI made to European Christianity with the intention to organize a crusade against the Almoravids and became the king's son to marry Leon Urraca The future queen of Leon and Castile between 1109 and 1126.
In 1093 Count Raymond took over the defense of Santarém, Lisbon and Sintra and was appointed governor of the province Gallecie comprising not only the lands of northeastern Spain ... but also called''territorium Portucalense''.
*whose limits are extended to the river Tagus
*due to the incorporation of the leonine kingdom spaces Santarém, Lisbon and Sintra, conquered the Taifa of Badajoz in the year 1092.
Because of this need for a more effective defense on that border of the Kingdom of Leon against the Almoravides and keep the defensive line of the river Tajo that became very difficult after the loss of the city of Lisbon, mission in which Raymond of Burgundy was not succeeding.
In December 1094, King Alfonso and had remarried, this time with Berta,''una Noble Italian and therefore away from the Burgundian influence. ''
Historical background
All indications are that the King Alfonso VI who still dreamed of the coveted crown in this marriage and sought greater freedom of movement counterbalancing the asfixia''''agobiante that had become the political pressure of the Burgundian faction.
Between early 1096 and late 1097, the Count Raymond, seeing reduced its influence on the court reached a political agreement with his cousin Henry of Burgundy, which had not yet been appointed governor of the county of Portugal, to share power The royal treasury and to support each other.
Through this covenant, which had the approval of the relative of both the Hugo abbot of Cluny, Raimundo ..
*'' Promised under oath to his cousin Henry give the kingdom of Toledo and a third of the royal treasure when Alfonso VI died. ''
*Should that not be possible if promised not to give the kingdom of Leon, would give the Galicia.
Enrique, in turn, promised to help get'todos Raimundo domains of King Alfonso and two thirds of tesoro.''
King Alfonso VI seems to be aware of this agreement and to counter the initiative of his two sons, named Enrique governor of the region stretching from the Minho to the Tagus, which until then was ruled by Count Raymond, by the latter was reduced only to the government of Galicia.
Thus the two cousins rather than allies became rivals with competing interests; their agreement as to succession jumped into the air, and thereafter each try to curry favor with Alfonso.
A first way to achieve that would prevent Raymond of Burgundy did not come to Iberia or not to marry Magpie, which could make the political status of these territories are maintained and not return to a county autonomise.
Of course all this change if the invasion Almoravid not occur or the Kingdom of Leon be able to make a more effective defense against the offensive of the Almoravide.
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Here the other protagonist is introduced into the emergence of the United Portugues:
Enrique of Burgundy, who was instrumental in the definitive separation of the Iberian kingdoms.
Any change in your life before becoming Conde would affect subsequent events that would lead to the separation of Portugal an independent kingdom.
Of course I have succeeded in obtaining their goals and ambitions that led him to agree with Raimundo, and achieve establish their own dynasties the future of Iberia would be very different and very linked to the future development of France and involved in the succession struggles of the dynasty Capet.
So should prevent the Portucalense County was granted to Count Henry of Burgundy.
Which further supported by the clunicenses political interests, is ambitiously introduced in the policy realm, but later visible in the status subordinate to the king, as all counts or governors who enjoyed his broad administrative powers, judicial and military, their was oriented thinking and ambition, naturally, to acquire complete autonomy when,
as in the Portuguese case, the conditions were favorable, conquering more and more power and freedom of action to the extent that achievement proclaim his heir King of Portugal.
Of course for this to happen first had control their county and this caused a war against supporters of his Mother, the Regent supported by Alfonso VII of Leon
The following points may change arising from the above historical facts are predictable ... Alfonso Enriquez could have died in childhood, not rebelling against his mother or have been defeated by the supporters of maintaining the Union with Galicia and Leon .
All indications are that the King Alfonso VI who still dreamed of the coveted crown in this marriage and sought greater freedom of movement counterbalancing the asfixia''''agobiante that had become the political pressure of the Burgundian faction.
Between early 1096 and late 1097, the Count Raymond, seeing reduced its influence on the court reached a political agreement with his cousin Henry of Burgundy, which had not yet been appointed governor of the county of Portugal, to share power The royal treasury and to support each other.
Through this covenant, which had the approval of the relative of both the Hugo abbot of Cluny, Raimundo ..
*'' Promised under oath to his cousin Henry give the kingdom of Toledo and a third of the royal treasure when Alfonso VI died. ''
*Should that not be possible if promised not to give the kingdom of Leon, would give the Galicia.
Enrique, in turn, promised to help get'todos Raimundo domains of King Alfonso and two thirds of tesoro.''
King Alfonso VI seems to be aware of this agreement and to counter the initiative of his two sons, named Enrique governor of the region stretching from the Minho to the Tagus, which until then was ruled by Count Raymond, by the latter was reduced only to the government of Galicia.
Thus the two cousins rather than allies became rivals with competing interests; their agreement as to succession jumped into the air, and thereafter each try to curry favor with Alfonso.
A first way to achieve that would prevent Raymond of Burgundy did not come to Iberia or not to marry Magpie, which could make the political status of these territories are maintained and not return to a county autonomise.
Of course all this change if the invasion Almoravid not occur or the Kingdom of Leon be able to make a more effective defense against the offensive of the Almoravide.
.
Here the other protagonist is introduced into the emergence of the United Portugues:
Enrique of Burgundy, who was instrumental in the definitive separation of the Iberian kingdoms.
Any change in your life before becoming Conde would affect subsequent events that would lead to the separation of Portugal an independent kingdom.
Of course I have succeeded in obtaining their goals and ambitions that led him to agree with Raimundo, and achieve establish their own dynasties the future of Iberia would be very different and very linked to the future development of France and involved in the succession struggles of the dynasty Capet.
So should prevent the Portucalense County was granted to Count Henry of Burgundy.
Which further supported by the clunicenses political interests, is ambitiously introduced in the policy realm, but later visible in the status subordinate to the king, as all counts or governors who enjoyed his broad administrative powers, judicial and military, their was oriented thinking and ambition, naturally, to acquire complete autonomy when,
as in the Portuguese case, the conditions were favorable, conquering more and more power and freedom of action to the extent that achievement proclaim his heir King of Portugal.
Of course for this to happen first had control their county and this caused a war against supporters of his Mother, the Regent supported by Alfonso VII of Leon
The following points may change arising from the above historical facts are predictable ... Alfonso Enriquez could have died in childhood, not rebelling against his mother or have been defeated by the supporters of maintaining the Union with Galicia and Leon .
The problem with the Habsburgs uniting Spain, is that they never tried to unite their possessions as a single realm. This was good in the case of Hapsburg lands in Italy and the Spanish Netherlands, but bad if you wanted the Iberian Peninsula united. Even Castile and Aragon were held in what was little more than a Personal union until after the Bourbons took over.
So I'd doubt that there was any effort put into integrating Portugal into Spain.
I think your best POD were:
a) the survival of Miguel da Paz (son of the King of Portugal and the eldest daughter of Ferdinand and Isabel)
b) Don Carlos (the son of Philip II from his first marriage with Maria Manuela of Portugal) survive and/or marry and having children. Maria Manuela was the daughter of King John III of Portugal and one of his only two surving children (the other being Prince John, husband of Joanna of Spain and father of King Sebastian) so after the death of her brother and nephew her son is the rightful and most senior heir of Portugal and Portugal will be unable to found a claimant with more rights to the crown than Carlos and his heirs
a) the survival of Miguel da Paz (son of the King of Portugal and the eldest daughter of Ferdinand and Isabel)
b) Don Carlos (the son of Philip II from his first marriage with Maria Manuela of Portugal) survive and/or marry and having children. Maria Manuela was the daughter of King John III of Portugal and one of his only two surving children (the other being Prince John, husband of Joanna of Spain and father of King Sebastian) so after the death of her brother and nephew her son is the rightful and most senior heir of Portugal and Portugal will be unable to found a claimant with more rights to the crown than Carlos and his heirs