How to disinherit Charles the Bald

Dirk

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So, what it says on the tin. Apparently Lothair and Louis the German kicked handed their father Louis the Pious's ass to him plenty of times, but somehow failed to get their younger half-brother Charlie out of the will. Does this have to do with the nobles of the Carolingian realm, or it something different? Would it be easiest to have Charles born as a girl, or not at all, or can I somehow get him disinherited to create drama?
 
There probably were good reasons for Louis the pions never disinheriting his son Charles.

Why disinheriting one only ? If he had, the logic would have been ha ont only one heir : Lothar.

Besides, Charles mother was a Welf, and this family already was a very powerful one.
 
There probably were good reasons for Louis the pions never disinheriting his son Charles.

Why disinheriting one only ? If he had, the logic would have been ha ont only one heir : Lothar.

Besides, Charles mother was a Welf, and this family already was a very powerful one.
Very good points, but if disinheriting Charles was clearly never going to happen why did Lothair and Ludwig keep at it?
 
Yes. But the fact it that though they did many succesful things against their father, they failed to have Charles the bald disinherited.

So obviously this was not the right way. You'd better have Charles die, no matter the way.
 
Simple Lothar (initially Bavaria, eventually Italy), Pepin (Aquitaine) and Louis (Bavaria) rose against their father to protect their share.
Charles the Bald, who first was given Alemannia, only ended up with a secured sub-kingdom, after the death of Pepin, he then receive Aquitaine.

In fact that (and influence and power) is the same reason, why Louis 'the German'* (*= AFAIK anachronistic) and Charles the Bald, eventually ally against their brother Lothar, once Lothar became emperor.
 
In fact that (and influence and power) is the same reason, why Louis 'the German'* (*= AFAIK anachronistic) and Charles the Bald, eventually ally against their brother Lothar, once Lothar became emperor.

his actual nickname was Louis Germanicus (refering to the roman germania)(and was given short after his death)
 
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