How to bring about populist monarchial appeal?

So, this is something I've been thinking about recently, the recent wave of populism we've seen has been either to the hard left, or the hard right, but in purely democratic terms. What would be needed for the populist feeling to demand a return to something akin to executive or proper constitutional monarchy, and away from political democratic norms?
 

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something like the carlist movement in Spain and the Bonarpartist movement in 19th century France fits the bill, and to go back further: Caesar in ancient Rome

In a way, it wouldn't be that different than standard right-wing populism: an attachment to tradition with the desire for a popular strongman, bonapartism is basically what you are going for
 
something like the carlist movement in Spain and the Bonarpartist movement in 19th century France fits the bill, and to go back further: Caesar in ancient Rome

In a way, it wouldn't be that different than standard right-wing populism: an attachment to tradition with the desire for a popular strongman, bonapartism is basically what you are going for

Hmm interesting, I mean I do wonder how such movements would be received. The hard right tends to speak a lot of nonsense with little kernels of truth hidden inside. The hard left, has the same thing as well.
 
Have the existing constitutional structures become incredibly corrupt and ossified at a time when widespread reforms are needed. Part of the historic appeal of Enlightened Absolutism is that it was seen as being able to bring about effective reform and policies for the national interest whilst democratic structures were seen as susceptible to sectional interests that would put their interests above all else.
 
Have the existing constitutional structures become incredibly corrupt and ossified at a time when widespread reforms are needed. Part of the historic appeal of Enlightened Absolutism is that it was seen as being able to bring about effective reform and policies for the national interest whilst democratic structures were seen as susceptible to sectional interests that would put their interests above all else.

With how shambolic things are looking right now, that would be interesting to see
 
Or, there might be a more (?) mature way, in which the U.S. House elects a first citizen to speak for the best values of the nation, including during times of uncertainty.

And it's widely understood that this person will have an INFORMAL unifying role and will keep needed conversations going in a mature way (and sorry to use the word twice in one short post but that's what would appeal to me)
 
Or, there might be a more (?) mature way, in which the U.S. House elects a first citizen to speak for the best values of the nation, including during times of uncertainty.

And it's widely understood that this person will have an INFORMAL unifying role and will keep needed conversations going in a mature way (and sorry to use the word twice in one short post but that's what would appeal to me)

Lol, an interesting view. Personally, I see nothing mature about elections whatsoever.
 
Basically, you need a lot of things:

1. A populace willing to take the risk that the new royal family won't be blathering idiots and will be good at their jobs in the decades and such to come.

2. A royal candidate who qualifies, and is willing to take the plunge.

3. A government willing to give up power to a royal family, even symbolical power. This is the hardest point of all.
 
Basically, you need a lot of things:

1. A populace willing to take the risk that the new royal family won't be blathering idiots and will be good at their jobs in the decades and such to come.

2. A royal candidate who qualifies, and is willing to take the plunge.

3. A government willing to give up power to a royal family, even symbolical power. This is the hardest point of all.
And some very good PR to show the royal family as the good guys as well
 
So, this is something I've been thinking about recently, the recent wave of populism we've seen has been either to the hard left, or the hard right, but in purely democratic terms. What would be needed for the populist feeling to demand a return to something akin to executive or proper constitutional monarchy, and away from political democratic norms?

It would take a constitutional monarchy where repeated elected governments do several kinds of poorly regarded, if not incompetent things. It would take a charismatic, intelligent and beloved monarch with a similarly charismatic and beloved heir. During one government's incompetence and poorly thought out policymaking, the monarch refuses to rubber stamp it and the affray goes public. Supported by the public opinion, the monarch has some of the regulations rendering him/her into a mere figurehead rolled back. Either an existing monarchist party gains more support during the next election or one of the existing conservative parties goes monarchist.
 
It would take a constitutional monarchy where repeated elected governments do several kinds of poorly regarded, if not incompetent things. It would take a charismatic, intelligent and beloved monarch with a similarly charismatic and beloved heir. During one government's incompetence and poorly thought out policymaking, the monarch refuses to rubber stamp it and the affray goes public. Supported by the public opinion, the monarch has some of the regulations rendering him/her into a mere figurehead rolled back. Either an existing monarchist party gains more support during the next election or one of the existing conservative parties goes monarchist.
And of course people actually bother caring about the future of their country
 
Another good way is to have the Monarch tied to a large minority who fear discrimination and oppression should full democracy be implemented. A possible candidate for this might if Israel was established as a constitutional monarchy with largely symbolic powers. Things go largely as IOTL in terms of wars and territorial acquisitions with Israel occupying significant amounts of Palestinian land. The expansionist and pro-settlement right may well end up rallying behind the monarchy and giving them actual power as a means of squaring the circle of integrating Palestinian land whilst also preserving the Jewish character of the state even in the face of Palestinians becoming the majority. Not that that would be a practical long-term solution.
 
Another good way is to have the Monarch tied to a large minority who fear discrimination and oppression should full democracy be implemented. A possible candidate for this might if Israel was established as a constitutional monarchy with largely symbolic powers. Things go largely as IOTL in terms of wars and territorial acquisitions with Israel occupying significant amounts of Palestinian land. The expansionist and pro-settlement right may well end up rallying behind the monarchy and giving them actual power as a means of squaring the circle of integrating Palestinian land whilst also preserving the Jewish character of the state even in the face of Palestinians becoming the majority. Not that that would be a practical long-term solution.
Interesting. Though seeing as the Palestinians have been offered a settlement four times and refused it four times one does have to question their line of thinking.
 
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