How Silent Fall the Cherry Blossoms

[Garrison]

Have Himmler fall down a flight of stairs and break his neck. Please.

Alas there's probably more rats in the Nazi regime than in the whole of LA...

 

[Sir Chaos]

This is pretty much what I was referring to.

Ah, I see. To me your post sounded more like "They just nod and say ´Ja, mein Führer´ then walk out of the room and toss their orders in the nearest garbage bin." With Hitler in April ´45 that might have worked; with Hitler in November ´44, not so much.

 

[stevep]

Ah, I see. To me your post sounded more like "They just nod and say ´Ja, mein Führer´ then walk out of the room and toss their orders in the nearest garbage bin." With Hitler in April ´45 that might have worked; with Hitler in November ´44, not so much.

Sir Chaos

The other option is that one or more Germans decide to sacrifice themselves for their country. Security will be a lot tighter after the July bid but desperate and well armed men can think something up. True topping Hitler won't necessarily stop any such attack, since its uncertain who would come out on top in the resultant power-struggle but at the very least it would delay things.

Steve

 

[RPW@Cy]

I wonder if this softens some of the post-war felings about the internment camps?

in OTL they are viewed uniformly as a shame, but here, there will be the little niggling point that if they hadn't been behind army protection, these innocent people might have been massacred. A revisionist idea that the internment camps were for the safety of Japanese-Americans, instead of being a fear-induced, nicer concentration camps organized because of falsely accusing tens of thousands of being traitors. This will muddy the waters somewhat on the Internment camps being a bad idea that went against the ideals of the United States.

This might have some effect on George Takai, who was a child in one of these camps

I had that thought too. Add in a bit of "only days after the Japs bombed LA with plague, American soldiers gave their lives to protect Japanese civilians" to the mix and I strongly suspect there will be a great deal of that going around.

 

[ScrewySqrl]

I had that thought too. Add in a bit of "only days after the Japs bombed LA with plague, American soldiers gave their lives to protect Japanese civilians" to the mix and I strongly suspect there will be a great deal of that going around.

Japanese-Americans, not Japanese citizens. Everyone in the Japanese internment camps were US citizens, first or second generation immigrants

 

[James G]

Japanese-Americans, not Japanese citizens. Everyone in the Japanese internment camps were US citizens, first or second generation immigrants

Though I cannot speak for RPW@Cy, I am under the impression that his use of quotation marks meant that he was paraphasing the opinions of those attackers.

 

[mcdo]

Japanese-Americans, not Japanese citizens. Everyone in the Japanese internment camps were US citizens, first or second generation immigrants

Actually that's not true, only around 62% of those imprisoned were US citizens. The citizens were all nisei or sansei, who had citizenship by virtue of being born in the US. First-generation Japanese immigrants were not eligible for naturalization due to their "race".

 

[neopeius]

Sgt. Bruce Mentzler, who had never wanted to see action, would be commended for his actions at the front gate. He would also be one of the few Americans to receive a Purple Heart while on duty on a base in the mainland United States for wounds sustained during the battle.

This is excellent, and very moving. My wife and I have degrees in Japanese Studies and many many Japanese friends from our frequent trips over there. I'm actually tearing up a little bit.

 

[neopeius]

Have Himmler fall down a flight of stairs and break his neck. Please.

Sig-worthy.

 

[Michel Van]

Exllent post, Geon

i notice this:

Sgt. 1st class Bruce Mentzler*

there is the Asterisk, but no info.
is that a typo or just forgot put information regarding Mentzler ?

 

[trekchu]

Ah, I see. To me your post sounded more like "They just nod and say ´Ja, mein Führer´ then walk out of the room and toss their orders in the nearest garbage bin." With Hitler in April ´45 that might have worked; with Hitler in November ´44, not so much.

Mind you, Dönitz might not even have to do that. For one, I doubt that they have one of those canisters available on short notice, never mind that this thing would have to get past the most experienced ASW forces in the history of this planet.

 

[Pangur]

There is at least two options open to Donitz. He makes sure that either the U-Boat or U-Boats that are towing the V2's have officers in command who make sure that the mission fail or more cynically he has another submarine sink them.

 

[Tyr Anazasi]

Dönitz know enough "trustable" personnel for such a task. Either he let them failing ("Ups. We sank the missile canister.") or he uses the men he doesn't trust to be sunk in error by other ships/U-boats. (Ups, we thought that was a British/Soviet submarine!") I think the first is less risky, IF this device becomes operational in time.

 

[Hades]

Or maybe give them false co-ordinates, and say "mein fuhrer, our U-boats got lost".

 

[Pangur]

Or maybe give them false co-ordinates, and say "mein fuhrer, our U-boats got lost".

Don't now about that one, quite hard to believe however bearing in mind that Hitler knew nothing about the sea there might be something to work with there

 

[Dathi THorfinnsson]

Dönitz know enough "trustable" personnel for such a task. Either he let them failing ("Ups. We sank the missile canister.") or he uses the men he doesn't trust to be sunk in error by other ships/U-boats. (Ups, we thought that was a British/Soviet submarine!") I think the first is less risky, IF this device becomes operational in time.

Or give it to the nazi equivalent of the william d. Porter (the infamous us destroyer that accidently tried to torpedo fdr).

 

[Cymraeg]

Or give it to the nazi equivalent of the william d. Porter (the infamous us destroyer that accidently tried to torpedo fdr).

I looked that ship up on Wikipedia. Then I read about it on Cracked.com. You owe me a new keyboard after I spat out my coffee through laughing!

 

[Geon]

Footnote

Exllent post, Geon

i notice this: there is the Asterisk, but no info.
is that a typo or just forgot put information regarding Mentzler ?

Michel

If you'll look back several postings you'll note a footnote which states that most of those with an asterisk beside their name ared fictitious people who I created for the sake of narrative. There is one exception and that is Boris Karloff who I put an asterisk beside to note a special incident that occurred in this timeline

I'll reiterate for those unaware. Most of the people whose names have an asterisk beside them are fictitious, unless mentioned other wise in a footnote with the posting.

Geon

 

[Hades]

Don't now about that one, quite hard to believe however bearing in mind that Hitler knew nothing about the sea there might be something to work with there

Hell, give an insanely long route and sell it to Hitler by saying that this will reduce the likeliness of the submarine being detected.

 

[RPW@Cy]

Though I cannot speak for RPW@Cy, I am under the impression that his use of quotation marks meant that he was paraphasing the opinions of those attackers.

Thank you, yes - the quotation marks were meant to indicate the sort of thing that might be said in-universe as part of the debate in question.