How realistic is "Italian Surge"?

MrP

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Mm, part way through it and enjoying it. That said, I don't think it's as realistic as it could be. Mainly as nothing's going wrong for the Italians by late 1939, and their military's looking too deuced competent by half. :rolleyes: :p The Fermi nuclear incident was very interesting - and I can quite see that being parlayed into something greater :)
 
Italy sat astride the world for centuries, and spawned what's quite possibly the single most influential culture in all of European history. Admittedly, they did it millenia ago, but it's still something of which they should be proud.
 
To be quite honest, the only thing keeping any major power from deploying primative (Little Boy-style, gun-based designs) was having a suffiecent quantitly of fissile material. The US got lucky in that they bought up a whole bunch of west African Uranium ore before the war thinking that it might have some military use and that they had the resources to build the massive Y-12 facility in Oak Ridge, Tennessee to enrich it from 0.07% U235 to ~5%. If in the 1930's, some power (UK, USSR, France, Germany, Japan, even Italy) had gotten a large enough interest in building an atomic bomb and aranged the proper resources, the could easily have beaten the US.

Now, a more efficent, implosion-triggered bomb (a la Fat Man) requires a bit more research, and would probably require collaboration (just as it did in real life).....

Simon ;)
 
simonbp said:
To be quite honest, the only thing keeping any major power from deploying primative (Little Boy-style, gun-based designs) was having a suffiecent quantitly of fissile material. The US got lucky in that they bought up a whole bunch of west African Uranium ore before the war thinking that it might have some military use and that they had the resources to build the massive Y-12 facility in Oak Ridge, Tennessee to enrich it from 0.07% U235 to ~5%. If in the 1930's, some power (UK, USSR, France, Germany, Japan, even Italy) had gotten a large enough interest in building an atomic bomb and aranged the proper resources, the could easily have beaten the US.

Yeah and I guess some roman could have invented gunpower, too.
 

MrP

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JimmyJimJam said:
Yeah and I guess some roman could have invented gunpower, too.

A smidge unfair, JJJ. After all, they had steam power. Just didn't have any reason to take it beyond theory. Whereas Italian Surge does have several of the important Manhattan Project scientists ending up in Italy. It's not terribly likely that they'd do this, but it's certainly got vast amounts more probability than Roman gunpowder :p :)
 
Well, I kinda liked it! It's not terribly realistic or even plausible, mind you, but fun and different. It among other things inspired me to write the Italia Eterna ATL (which I will finish some time, yes!).

Italy under Mussolini is actually rather interesting in regards to WI's. There were so many opportunities wasted and missed, that one can get dizzy just thinking about them!

Regards and all!

- Mr.Bluenote.
 
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I found this on my HD and I was wondering if anybody ever saw it. I might have posted it in a map thread somewhere. Either way, its not a bad map!

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