How Much Of The Goldn Circle Is Plausible

The Golden a Circle was a proposed country in which the South wanted to expand into Mexico, South and Central America. Assuming the U.S. (not the Confederacy) did some conquests, which one of those territories would be most likely invaded and kept?

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Cuba and the Islands off the coast of Florida are the easiest as the Spanish held islands wanted independence from Spain but still the support of stability, security and economical trade.

The Confederates would offer them these.

Mexico is a bit complicated, especially if the Confederates wanted to treat Mexicans as second citizens, why join into a union when your worst off and its okay say the CSA would just suppress them, but that would take away soldiers from other areas which would not work as the plantation owners will be in constant fear of their slaves rebelling.

If Mexicans are treated equally then its could be an easy march into Mexico City especially after the French withdrew their armies in 1866, the CSA could be seen as the republican support against Maximilian I.
 
The Confederacy has no real ability to project power. Basically, it doesn't have the logistics to field an army far from its home bases, and it has no blue water navy and no real ability to build one.

So the notion of Confederate military conquests is pretty far fetched. If the Confederacy goes after Cuba, the Spaniards will kick their ass. If the Confederacy goes after Mexico... well, the Mexicans have done quite well at fighting the French, they'll do better against the Mexicans.

Everything else is simply out of reach - neither the United States nor Britain (especially Britain) will allow the Confederacy to go knocking over Central American or Caribbean countries. And much of the Caribbean is under the control of powerful European states.

It's possible that the Confederacy could inherit conquests from the United States. Say if the US decided to go all in on William Walker's expedition to Nicaragua, and say that lead to the US conquering several central American states. But even there, its dubious, I don't see these territories kept by the Confederacy - no ability to hold it against the Union.
 
Cuba and the Islands off the coast of Florida are the easiest as the Spanish held islands wanted independence from Spain but still the support of stability, security and economical trade.

You mean the Bahamas? The British possessions?
 
Why would the United States allow the Confederacy to take any of those territories? I don't think relations between the two are going to be very happy for a long time, and the stronger US is going to be able to thwart any Confederate expansion attempts into weaker countries.
 
Why would the United States allow the Confederacy to take any of those territories? I don't think relations between the two are going to be very happy for a long time, and the stronger US is going to be able to thwart any Confederate expansion attempts into weaker countries.

The Confederacy has no real ability to project power. Basically, it doesn't have the logistics to field an army far from its home bases, and it has no blue water navy and no real ability to build one.

So the notion of Confederate military conquests is pretty far fetched. If the Confederacy goes after Cuba, the Spaniards will kick their ass. If the Confederacy goes after Mexico... well, the Mexicans have done quite well at fighting the French, they'll do better against the Mexicans.

Everything else is simply out of reach - neither the United States nor Britain (especially Britain) will allow the Confederacy to go knocking over Central American or Caribbean countries. And much of the Caribbean is under the control of powerful European states.

It's possible that the Confederacy could inherit conquests from the United States. Say if the US decided to go all in on William Walker's expedition to Nicaragua, and say that lead to the US conquering several central American states. But even there, its dubious, I don't see these territories kept by the Confederacy - no ability to hold it against the Union.

Cuba and the Islands off the coast of Florida are the easiest as the Spanish held islands wanted independence from Spain but still the support of stability, security and economical trade.

The Confederates would offer them these.

Mexico is a bit complicated, especially if the Confederates wanted to treat Mexicans as second citizens, why join into a union when your worst off and its okay say the CSA would just suppress them, but that would take away soldiers from other areas which would not work as the plantation owners will be in constant fear of their slaves rebelling.

If Mexicans are treated equally then its could be an easy march into Mexico City especially after the French withdrew their armies in 1866, the CSA could be seen as the republican support against Maximilian I.

I meant the entire U.S. country. Would the U.S. do it?
 
I meant the entire U.S. country. Would the U.S. do it?

To be truthful with you.....outside of Cuba, and maybe the northernmost tier of Mexican states, plus Nicaragua, maybe.....it would very likely require that the "Golden Circle" be a rather different concept than the OTL idea.

(P.S.; I think your map may have confused people into thinking you meant the Confederacy.)
 
To be truthful with you.....outside of Cuba, and maybe the northernmost tier of Mexican states, plus Nicaragua, maybe.....it would very likely require that the "Golden Circle" be a rather different concept than the OTL idea.

(P.S.; I think your map may have confused people into thinking you meant the Confederacy.)

Yeah but there weren't any other good ones.
 
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