How much does France loose in a CP victory?

So, assuming a scenario where Germany completely and utterly crushes France in a central powers victory, leaving the country in ruins, how much would loose? Could it loose Algeria?

I had this idea of the Ottomans carving out a bunch of vassal states in French west and north Africa, but I don't know how plausible this is.
 
Not much could loss inmediatly as the pieces will fall in themselves, twice they fought the german..twice the loss,'national honor' is a sham and now they're worse that ever...chaos and anarchy and colonies declaring independece one at the time and the metropole too weak to react. this pausable indeed
 
This really depends on whether the UK takes part in the war or not.

Realistically, I could see France losing French Equatorial Africa, Dahomey and maybe some other small bits of French West Africa, along with some additional padding for Alsace-Lorraine - especially the iron fields in northern Lorraine.
 
This really depends on whether the UK takes part in the war or not.

Realistically, I could see France losing French Equatorial Africa, Dahomey and maybe some other small bits of French West Africa, along with some additional padding for Alsace-Lorraine - especially the iron fields in northern Lorraine.
Is them loosing ALL colonies ASB? Perhaps Germany would want to kick down France so hard that it completely ceases to be a great power?
 
Is them loosing ALL colonies ASB?
Not , but seems forced if too inmediatly, as i say, those might collapse when the situation in france proper become pure chaos, plus germany could only want the colonies give money and other that france keep them or make them independant.
 
Not , but seems forced if too inmediatly, as i say, those might collapse when the situation in france proper become pure chaos, plus germany could only want the colonies give money and other that france keep them or make them independant.
I see. Would it be likely for Algeria to carved off and given to the Ottoman sphere of influence?
 
So, how it be realistic for Germany and/or the Ottomans to rip Algeria away from France? The Native Algerians may probably support it.
Native algerians will definitely support it but how are the ottomans going to govern it they don't have Egypt, do they now have tunis and Libya? Also the three pashas aren't the nicest rulers with their pan turkic ideology muslims will be alienated.
 
Native algerians will definitely support it but how are the ottomans going to govern it they don't have Egypt, do they now have tunis and Libya? Also the three pashas aren't the nicest rulers with their pan turkic ideology muslims will be alienated.
Maybe they can rule it even without land connection? The western powers can certainly rule areas without land connection. Or maybe Algeria is independent but in an Ottoman sphere of influence.
 
If the French are beaten in Europe, they will lose everything and become German vassals
Even if Germany might want the entirety of France's empire, other powers (read the UK) aren't going to let them get away with that so easily.

What can the British do? If the French army is defeated, the Germans would reduce the French toast Vichy like existence where they send tribute and obey the German dictates

The British fleet won't be able to protect Britain let alone French colonies. Even if it could, the British will steal the French colonies for themselves
 
If France is mostly occupied and in ruins she will do whatever is needed to get the Germans off her territory, if that means giving them Algeria then so be it.

As for Britain objecting, she will have to fight Germany to stop the transfer of colonies from French to German administration.
 
The Germans aren't taking EVERYTHING. There will likely be border adjustments, the use of French ports for the German fleet, the protectorate of Morocco goes to Germany, and France finds itself in a customs union. Germany would rather reduce them to an economic vassal to ensure there is no 'next' war as well as let the French keep their colonies (let them do the work while Germany reaps the benefits). Germany's main goal will be Mitteleuropa which no one will be able to prevent.
 
The Germans aren't taking EVERYTHING. There will likely be border adjustments, the use of French ports for the German fleet, the protectorate of Morocco goes to Germany, and France finds itself in a customs union. Germany would rather reduce them to an economic vassal to ensure there is no 'next' war as well as let the French keep their colonies (let them do the work while Germany reaps the benefits). Germany's main goal will be Mitteleuropa which no one will be able to prevent.
Who is going to stop them?

Take a look at the very moderate September Program.

France was going to be charged a 10 billion mark indemnity and to assume 33 billion in German debt

Then look at the plans for Belgium and the Netherlands. Even neutrals were to be put under the German heel.

And how are the British going to stop them? Britain needed the help of France, Russia , Italy and the US to win the war

How is she prevailing with France and Russia defeated and Italy either defeated or allied to Germany?

The idea that Britain can't lose because her fleet will protect her fails the most cursory of examinations. The British cabinet understood and that's why they went to war- not for Belgium but to keep their Empire
 
Who is going to stop them?

The economic and geopolitical realities of trying to force complience via constant cohersian rather than cooperation over such a wide swath of areas? Germany can't keep the war economy running as hot as she has been for any reasonable period of time without the home front cracking under it's weight, and if you have a hostile Russia,hostile France, are trying to subdue half of Africa from zero on the ground adminstrative reform and are staging a occupation in France and Eastern Europe that's fighting gurellia operations all while the civilians are screaming to have the boys come home and their normal lives back something, somewhere will crack and you risk the structure falling apart.

Better more modest gains that you can certainly hold then megolomanic dreams you can't
 
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