How might the practice of Democracy around the world change if the CSA won the ACW?

In Lincoln's Gettysburg address he stated that the union must win the ACW so "that government of the people, by the people, for the people, shall not perish from the earth." After pondering on this as well as reading the last paragraph of this article I'd like to discuss how the practice and use of Democratic forms of government might have been changed if the CSA had won independence. Most believe that such an event would have had a strongly negative impact on how people viewed the practicality of a Democratic government and would have changed the bases of many governments that where created after the ACW (such as Canada's).
 
I think the issue isn't so much the CSA winning - it was in name similar to the US democratically - as the Union losing.

Yes, the two are leading to an independent CSA, but humor me.

It's going to set a precedent that if you don't like the way the election went, you can rebel. The idea that the ballot is the decisive factor, not the bullet is greatly weakened when the bullet beat the ballot.

Secondly, and very much related, it's going to make democratic governments look unable to handle their own citizenry and/or wage war on a large scale.
 
I think the issue isn't so much the CSA winning - it was in name similar to the US democratically - as the Union losing.

Yes, the two are leading to an independent CSA, but humor me.

It's going to set a precedent that if you don't like the way the election went, you can rebel. The idea that the ballot is the decisive factor, not the bullet is greatly weakened when the bullet beat the ballot.

Secondly, and very much related, it's going to make democratic governments look unable to handle their own citizenry and/or wage war on a large scale.

So if the ACW causes the Democratic style of government to be discredited, how would this effect the various Republican movements in Europe? 5 years after the Civil war, the French Empire would be replaced with a Republic so would that still occur? BTW this is not factoring in how a successful Mexican Empire would effect France. Would this strengthen the surviving absolute/semi-absolute monarchies or no?
 
I think the issue isn't so much the CSA winning - it was in name similar to the US democratically - as the Union losing.

Yes, the two are leading to an independent CSA, but humor me.

It's going to set a precedent that if you don't like the way the election went, you can rebel. The idea that the ballot is the decisive factor, not the bullet is greatly weakened when the bullet beat the ballot.

Secondly, and very much related, it's going to make democratic governments look unable to handle their own citizenry and/or wage war on a large scale.
Alright I'll add that we analyze TL in which the CSA gains independence not by overwhelming the Union with military victories but is givin independence after the Union decides continueing the war will cause more damage than what benefits can be gained.
 

Kaptin Kurk

Banned
Well, a CSA victory will discredit democracy. Will it destroy the idea? I'm not sure, but I suspect conservative philosophies of government, both monarchist and New World oligarchical will get a longer and stronger lease on life. (Not to mention Slavery, which will at least in the CSA be vindicated, and probably everywhere else the institution still exists.)

Every movement, across the western world, which is defeated at the Ballot box will probably start waving Confederate flags, and it will be sited by both them and anti-democrats as a reason why democracy is a failure.
 
Well, a CSA victory will discredit democracy. Will it destroy the idea? I'm not sure, but I suspect conservative philosophies of government, both monarchist and New World oligarchical will get a longer and stronger lease on life. (Not to mention Slavery, which will at least in the CSA be vindicated, and probably everywhere else the institution still exists.)

Every movement, across the western world, which is defeated at the Ballot box will probably start waving Confederate flags, and it will be sited by both them and anti-democrats as a reason why democracy is a failure.

Agreed, which is yet another reason why that the CSA would have been a disaster. IMO, it would have been a disaster for most White Southerners as most of them were Poor Whites who were ground into the dust by the Planter Class.
 
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