How long would it have taken the Confederacy to implode?

Wisconsin, Kansas, Minnesota, and Michigan were all agricultural states and yet they didn't leave the Union over tariffs. Only the slave states left the Union and a lot of the discussion in forming the CSA was how to make sure Free States couldn't get in.

Cannonballs off an ironclad, my friend.:(

That poster signed in to AH.com solely to make that one post it appears. I have my suspicions about that, but it is a matter for the moderators and Ian.
 
Cannonballs off an ironclad, my friend.:(

That poster signed in to AH.com solely to make that one post it appears. I have my suspicions about that, but it is a matter for the moderators and Ian.

Probably, but some newbie just coming on this site might fall for it. Pointing it out to them might prevent that.
 

TFSmith121

Banned
They tend to be the same "non-newbies", however;

All too true, so it applies to them as well.


They tend to be the same "non-newbies", however; time after time...

There's an interesting intersection with the "other" uber alles set of fans, it seems.

Best,
 

RousseauX

Donor
I use the title above because about 99.9% of American people have been taught and read American History that has been written by revisionists most of which is untrue. The only truth about The War, which has been called by many names is that it was in no way a "civil war". The CSA never attempted to overthrow the USA government. The agriculture states were being ravished by higher and higher tariff and duty laws since Lincoln was elected with only 39% of the vote. Northeastern pro-industry factions, later called "Robber Barons", including Lincoln, packed the U.S. House of Representatives to gain a pro-industry majority in the US Congress. The agriculture states saw the handwriting on the wall. Lincoln refused to compromise and preferred instead war. The agriculture states were in the process of being completely cut out of the USA legislating process. They saw that they had just become the money slaves to the northeastern industrial tycoons who wanted to build an industrial complex in the northeast to control world commerce from the northeastern U.S.A. The CSA was an agriculture based industry region with no industry, no military and very little transportation infrastructure. All of the 13 colonies and states of the USA were at one time or other slave holding states, not just the southern states. The USA's northeastern region was the slave trading region of the Americas. They built slave ships, manufactured slave trading goods and their sailors transported African slaves all over the world including to the U.S.A. When the northern states decided to outlaw slavery, primarily because they had few industries that required large numbers of untrained workers, instead of freeing their slaves they sold them, some to southern plantation owners, but most were transported to South American and the Caribbean island nations and sold for huge profits. They then attempted to publicly cover up the fact that they had been slave holding states. Even slave cemeteries were obliterated. Only in modern times have construction project found some of these old slave cemeteries. In the South by and large slaved were buried in white church cemeteries and many are still there today with only the wooden markers rotted out. The first slave market in the U.S.A. was in New York City. Without going into factual detail the 1860-'65 war was in reality Lincoln's Tariff War. In the end he failed to deliver the funds from southern agriculture to build the northeastern industrialists American Industrial Revolution and lost favor with his political party leaders. The CSA only wanted to be left alone to be an agriculture based nation, but greed stood in the way and Americans have been taught a revised history since... To those who will recoil and disagree out of hand, I suggest they find proof of what they have been taught and believe in period documents from 1800 to 1900. The agriculture states were not the first U.S. states to entertain the option of withdrawing from the Union. Several northeastern manufacturing states were in the process of withdrawing from the U.S.A. and creating their own nation with several Canadian provinces when the War of 1812 ended. Today most legal scholars agree that the southern states and any state had the right to withdraw from the Union. Some of the agriculture states were wary enough to have written that right to withdraw into their joining documents. An example is Virginia...

Hey look it's the lost cause

95% chance poster does not come back to defend his post
 
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Can we stop giving that post attention, now? I think it's been addressed reasonably thoroughly at this point.
 
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