How far would a surviving Weimar Republic go to reshaping the international order?

Apparently some Poles wish they could have had the 1945 borders in the west and the 1939 borders in the east - a veritable Polish empire. And they expected Roosevelt and Churchill to just give it to them.
 

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Demographics. The larger Polish populations were in West Prussia as opposed East Prussia, hence the Corridor. It was the botched solution listening to Wilson's self determination and head-in-the-clouds 14 Points wrought.
What the heck is wrong with an exclave that can be accessed over the sea??? What about Alaska, Sicily, Northern Ireland, Hokkaido, Zealand, etc. pp. ??? None of them think that their Nation is butchered unless they create land bridges that connect their parts.
 
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What the heck is wrong with an exclave that can be accessed over the sea??? What about Alaska, Sicily, Northern Ireland, Hokkaido, Zealand, etc. pp. ??? None of them think that their Nation is butchered unless they create land bridges that connect their parts.


None of those you mention had had a land connection for a century and a half.

By 1919, some six generations of Germans had grown up with such a land connection. It's a matter of what you are used to.
 
There's certain arguments that there were those who believed that Poland as a state was doomed to collapse. Stresemann the politically moderate German Foreign Minister believed that German territorial claims to Polish territory must wait until Poland was near collapse to strengthen the chance of international acceptance. Supposedly this is why Germany pushed for a trade war with Poland in 1925 to push a crisis when Poland was already suffering hyper-inflation - though rather than creating enough of a crisis for Germany to intervene the Polish crisis it led to a military coup by Pilduski. The revanchism of Germany was tempered by the weakness it felt vis-a-vis the British and French but even without the military policy of Nazism there was significant sentiment amongst the Germans for a reclamation of at very least East Prussia.

As Germany rehabilitated itself between the wars, which was inevitable, there would exist the same situation where Britain and France become unnerved by the resurrected Germany and it's claims for old territory. The only difference would be no Hitler in power. This could lead to a re-militarisation of the Rhineland - maybe even alongside some sort of rapprochement with the French if the French are up for it. After that the Germans would likely push for a revising of the territorial repossession of East Prussia. Depending on what the state of affairs are in Poland there is a situation where this might be achievable within the diplomatic order. The Polish would definitely resent it regardless. Possibly a crisis might emerge post 1925 and with Germany democratic and Polish a military dictatorship there may be the sympathies in Britain and France to hold a vote from the people of East Prussia. As for Danzig a compromise might be the repatriation of the Free city to Germany but with a Molauhafen-style port use agreement hammered out for the Polish to use - or possibly just a vote on return. The Polish might be willing to give up their nominal control of Danzig given the resentment there and given their decision to build and use Gdynia anyway - again depends on what's happening in Poland domestically.

The question about whether these territorial claims would allow Wiemar Germany to alter the international order really comes down to whether or not the Germans keep a revanchist attitude towards them alive in their culture and education the way France did for Alsace-Lorraine. If not then there is little chance the Germans would get back anything beyond Rhineland and perhaps Danzig but not East Prussia and maybe, if the stars align, Anschluss.
 
Yikes, reading up on them in Wikipedia now. Such antisemitism.
Heard of them but do not know much details about them. Antisemitism was pretty wide spread in Eastern and Central Europe. Well all over Europe. I guess there was more then plain antisemitism behind it. Just read something on Slovak national awaking and some of the leaders were apparently antisemetites. Their reason at the time apparanetly was Jewish population sided with Hungarians, quickly Magyarized. With magyarization of not Hungarians going on and not Magyars treated as citizens of second or third class it didn't help.
 

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What the heck is wrong with an exclave that can be accessed over the sea??? What about Alaska, Sicily, Northern Ireland, Hokkaido, Zealand, etc. pp. ??? None of them think that their Nation is butchered unless they create land bridges that connect their parts.

Well all of those that you mention were voluntary unless I'm mistaken? Alaska was purchased, so Washington knew what they were getting; Sicily, Northern Ireland, Hokkaido and Zealand were parts of a nation as an island (which kind of mandates that it's accessed by sea), so to use those as examples is kind of disingenuous.

East Prussia's separation from the contiguous German State was forced on the Germans by Versailles and not by military conquest either. It was an after the matter action brought about by diplomats as opposed to generals and that made it hard for the German people to take. Remember the war ended without any allied troops on German soil and suddenly one of the oldest provinces of Prussia is taken by threat of force against a starving nation. I'd say it's entirely understandable why it was unpopular and the return of that land to be an aim for Germans afterwards.
 
Also, I don't think that Polish expulsion of Germans without the Nazi crimes or more importantly, the backing of Stalin, would go down too well.
 
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