How far could the Mongols have gotten in Europe if Ogedei Khan didn't die?

How far could the Mongols have gotten in Europe if Ogedei Khan didn't die?

  • No further than OTL

    Votes: 16 31.4%
  • Germany

    Votes: 21 41.2%
  • The Netherlands/Belgium

    Votes: 2 3.9%
  • France/the English Channel

    Votes: 12 23.5%

  • Total voters
    51
How far could the Mongols have gotten if Ogedei Khan didn't die in 1241 and they continued their European campaign?
 
My understanding is that the very notion that the Mongols retreated from Europe because of Ogedei's death is considered suspect today.

One could very credibly argue that the Mongol campaign in Europe ended because the Mongols were defeated - not in a single pitched battle, but over several seasons of grueling sieges, poor weather, and dogged resistance by holdouts in Hungary and Croatia - in which case the answer to "how far could they have gotten if Ogedei had lived" is "exactly as far as they did."
 
They'd probably reach Germany on sheer momentum, but they would not hold more then OTL - they were stretching very thin already.
 
My understanding is that the democratic nature at least at the highest levels of Mongol society meant that it was too far from the powerbase, logistically and in terms of morale to sustain much passed Germany as far as the Oder?
 
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