How effective would Japanese suicide weapons be in Operation Olympic?

How effective would Japanese suicide weapons be in Operation Olympic?

  • Very effective

    Votes: 9 34.6%
  • Somewhat effective

    Votes: 15 57.7%
  • Not effective

    Votes: 2 7.7%

  • Total voters
    26
In August 1945 Japan had or planned to have by the time Operation Olympic started:

Over 10,000 planes for use as kamikazes.

300 Ohka rocket planes.

1,000 manned torpedoes.

8,000 explosive packed boats.

1,000 midget submarines.

4,000 frogmen armed with explosive charges for use against landing craft.

Several thousand suicide bombers armed with satchel charges.

If Operation Downfall actually happened how many casualties/deaths would Japan's suicide arsenal plausibly cause the WAllies?
 
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A great deal of trouble, but after a while they run out of planes/maned torpedoes/mini subs.

Losses on both sides are going to be very heavy...
 
How many would they have lost anyway from 1943-45 - compared to all those suicide attacks happening in 1943?
 
Kamikaze planes wouldn't be as effective as they were at Okinawa. Their airfields would have been bombed for several months and there would have been allied fighters on patrol around said airfields.
Due to fule shortages training flights were limited. For most aircraft the engines on the planes were turned over once a week, so mechanical issues would arise.
Poor pilot training would become a major factor if the weather wasn't perfect.
They would do damage but not as much as hoped for.
 
Both suicide and conventional attacks would have been much more effective than at Okinawa and anywhere else. The United States grossly underestimated the sheer numbers of aircraft Japan had left (on the order of 5,000+ planes overlooked) and would have been dealing with attacks from multiple directions flown over mountainous terrain that would have hampered Allied radar until the last minute. Based on the hit ratio at Okinawa, the number of aircraft to be committed, and certain advantages the Japanese would have possessed in their home territory, Allied casualties at sea from aerial attacks and other means could have exceeded 100,000 for the entire invasion.
 
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