How dystopian can a Ron Paul presidency get?

Gaius Julius Magnus

Gone Fishin'
Deindustrialisation and looming National bankruptcy, a collapse of education and infrastructure, two humiliating lost wars, an utterly corrupt political class willing to sell America to foreigners for campaign cash, police state quality survailance .................sure is wonderful
And Ron Paul would solve all of this how?

Believe it or not despite what some think, he isn't Jesus. And did I even say this was a golden age? No, I was just refuting this idea that we live in a dark age.

And even he was elected before this supposed dark age you keep going about. How do you know for absolute certainty things would not get worse?
I fail to see how an arch-free market libertarian/socially conservative Rob Paul one term Presidency would avoid all of that.
Clearly the power of the Free Market and its Blessed Son, Ron Paul I, is beyond the comprehension of mere mortals.
 
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Yea, I wouldn't deny there wouldn't be some good things about having Paul as president. For example, no US involvement in Trans-Pacific Partnership.
 
I fail to see how an arch-free market libertarian/socially conservative Ron Paul one term Presidency would avoid all of that.

Never said it would. As a point of departure my original post on this thread assumed a fairly significant variation on the overall mindset of the American Electorate in 1988 (one which would seriously consider a Ron Paul candidacy for President either as a Repub or a significant Third Party along the lines of what Ross Perot was) from what actually existed in that year. Given some level of departure from Washington bussinessasusual in a manner which the bulk of ordinary Americans find to be cordial a second term becomes a possibility. Continued delivery of the goods in a manner applauded by Middle America then opens the door for a shift as significant as the time when the Whigs disappeared over a century earlier. From there the gap in that post from our world of today unfolds.

Note, I did not touch 2008 as a point of departure as I firmly believe the real dysutopia which has overcome America is too firmly entrenched for an out of the box candidate such as Mr Paul to make much difference even if elected by that year.
 
Im not sure... how can a Ron Paul presidency be connected with a dystopian future? What exactly would cause that?
 
Some champion an audit of the Fed, but not many seem to argue for outright abolishing the Fed. You could see many talking about how Paul wants to damage the US financially by destroying the Fed, and some would likely point out the economic downturn that happened when Andrew Jackson abolished the Second National Bank.

To be honest, it would be worth it just for this to get into the national Overton Window. There is widespread misunderstanding of the history of banking in this country (not helped along by an economics profession that hasn't been taught any in-depth economic history in decades and which hasn't even bothered to critically examine the necessity and performance of central banks in a century) and the chance for the increasingly organized, scholarly doubt that can be cast on the Federal Reserve System and America's financial and banking history in general to be made more widely known could be a once-in-multiple-centuries opportunity.
 
I lean right, but never found this guy that great. I guess, you guys would probably know more then I do. But, I think, outside of maybe disbanding the Patriotic Act, I don't think he does things much different then the past two presidents have done.
 

takerma

Banned
Can he end the War on Drugs? He can do whatever he wants the rest of the term it would be net positive.
 
I think the country might be better off after RP gets thrown out on his ear.

He would end the War on Drugs, generally by directing funding away from those agencies and directing them to prosecute specific acts during his term-like say instead of concentrating on 'stopping drugs at the border' instead switching them to 'increase investigation of official corruption'.

Most of the crazy stuff gets roadblocked HARD in the Congress. Which is where things get fun- Congress has a lot of powers that don't get used much out of deference to the Executive Branch. When RP starts throwing a tantrum and shutting things down, both parties would have to work together to actually get anything done.

And, just maybe, after he's gone, they remember how to do that.
 
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