How did we get this list of US Presidents 1964-today

1961-1965: John F. Kennedy (D)
1965-1973: Barry Goldwater (R)
1973-1974: Richard Nixon (D)
1974-1981: Hubert Humphrey (D)
1981-1987: Ronald Reagan (R)
1987-1997: Martin Luther King Jr (R)
1997-2001: Bill Clinton (D)
2001-2005: John McCain (D)
2005-current: Ron Paul (R/L)

How did America get here (totally plausible)
 
JFK being defeated by Goldwater is ASB: the polls showed him leading Goldwater by nearly 2-1 IOTL. If I see another "POTUS MLK"... that is ASB, given his self-proclaimed socialism.
 

maverick

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How did we get this list of US Presidents 1964-today

You took several cliche presidents, ignored the butterfly effect and threw in some ASBs at the end for good measure?
 

Cook

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I liked Reagan’s choice of King as his Vice President. I always found Reagan to be too liberal for my liking. I know it’s almost impossible to criticise him with the aura of martyrdom he has because of his assassination but that’s my opinion.

And I think King was right to reshuffle his cabinet and get rid of most of Reagan’s cabinet after he was re-elected.
:)
 

maverick

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I liked Reagan’s choice of King as his Vice President. I always found Reagan to be too liberal for my liking. I know it’s almost impossible to criticise him with the aura of martyrdom he has because of his assassination but that’s my opinion.

And I think King was right to reshuffle his cabinet and get rid of most of Reagan’s cabinet after he was re-elected.
:)

This is not a DBWI/RP
 

Cook

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I know, I just felt like throwing in a clanger.
:p
I’ve just received a stop order in the office and I’m on my 4th cup of coffee for the morning. Any minute now blue monkeys are going to float down from the ceiling…
:D
 
I liked Reagan’s choice of King as his Vice President. I always found Reagan to be too liberal for my liking. I know it’s almost impossible to criticise him with the aura of martyrdom he has because of his assassination but that’s my opinion.

And I think King was right to reshuffle his cabinet and get rid of most of Reagan’s cabinet after he was re-elected.
:)

Reagan was not a liberal. King was more to the center ITTL. He still appealed to the right of ttl for his pro life stance.
 
MLK was a Liberal Republican (IE, the folks that left the GOP and joined the Democrats long ago). The reasons for this were that there were Liberal Republicans -obviously- and that the Democrats of the south in which he grew up and his family lived were the Conservative Dixiecrats. The reason he left was because of Goldwater securing the nomination and the rise of the Conservatives.

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"[SIZE=-1]It is almost certain that he broke whatever affiliation he had with the Republican Party, inherited via his father, who had gone so far as to endorse [/SIZE][SIZE=-1]Richard M. Nixon. After the nomination of Barry Goldwater for the presidency, King wrote in his Autobiography, "The Republican Party geared its appeal and program to racism, reaction, and extremism. All people of good will viewed with alarm and concern the frenzied wedding at the Cow Palace of the KKK with the radical right. The best man at this ceremony was a senator whose voting record, philosophy, and program were anathema to all the hard-won achievements of the past decade." Photographs exist of King campaigning for LBJ in 1964."

Why would here therefore join along with Goldwater's successor, and one probably more Conservative (and neo-Conservative) than Goldwater? To change King, you'd have to go back decades, and change the whole social systems of the South for goodness sake.

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[SIZE=-1]Reagan was not a liberal. King was more to the center ITTL. He still appealed to the right of ttl for his pro life stance.[/SIZE]
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You're confusing an issue that has been politicized in recent decades with ideology overall. One can be a Liberal in all issues and be against abortion and things of that nature. That does not make one a Conservative.
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Kennedy surviving butterflies LBJ out of the Presidency. The neocons do not jump. We get out of Veitnam earlier on in ttl. Hence less to no neocon influance on Reagan. There is a Christian Right but they are a bit more libertarian than OTL. They are a more tempered bunch and not as raving fundie as the ones you tend to dislike with a passion.
 
Good one MarkE. That's what I kinda thought. Nixon well let's just say he is removed for ttl Watergatelike event. Humprhey has a solid first term but his second is not so kind. HHH's second 4 years was worse than Carter's OTL.
 
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