How Could German Unification Fail?

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Would an Austrian victory produce a Prussian northern Germany and an Austrian/independent southern one?
 

Susano

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Well, there are many ways in which the German unfiication as it happened IOTL can fail. That some sort of unification eventually occurs is kinda inevitable, though.

Joke answer: Judging by timelines and maps it is apaprently enough if a Texan farmer sneezes to the left side instead of the right in 1863. This will result in a Aegan coast of Asia Minor belonging to Greece and Italian disunity, too.
 
Well, there are many ways in which the German unfiication as it happened IOTL can fail. That some sort of unification eventually occurs is kinda inevitable, though.

Hey, the Zollverain had free trade, a sort of common foreign policy, and was theoretically allied. What more do you need?
 

Valdemar II

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Like Susano I think some kind of German unificationwas inevitable, but it just a question about how much of Germany is part of the unification and how it's united, IOTL Germany lacked the Austrian and Luxembourg part, you can easy imagine that without the Franco-Prussian War Germany would be limited to the North German Confederation, in Napoleon (I) Victory world you could see Germany limited to the Rhine Confederation, in a world without Prussian succes in the wars or a world with better Austrian leadership, you could imagine a EU style unification, which in best case this would also include the Benelux, the entire Austrian Empire and Denmark. The question is when is these resulting states is "Germany" and not just Prussia or Austria or weird Central European Union/Confederation.
 
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Well, there are many ways in which the German unfiication as it happened IOTL can fail. That some sort of unification eventually occurs is kinda inevitable, though.

Joke answer: Judging by timelines and maps it is apaprently enough if a Texan farmer sneezes to the left side instead of the right in 1863. This will result in a Aegan coast of Asia Minor belonging to Greece and Italian disunity, too.

I'm not sure about "inevitable" - maybe "very likely". If the Austrians had won in 1866 that seems a decent possibility. Maybe North German unification is inevitable but you could still see South German states remaining outside.

There is more than one German state in existence today, after all: Luxembourg, Germany, Austria, Lichtenstein, and Switzerland.
 

Susano

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Eh, Switzerland wasnt German anymore when the unification proces sstarted. I mean, lingually yes, but not nationally (that is, identity wise) anymore. Austria is of course the big counter-example. I mean, luxemburg and Liechtenstein count, too, but I would call it an unification even with such small states outside it ;) But as for Austria, the only reason it developed an own identity is a (somewhat cowardly if I may say so) "escape" after WW2. It took a special event for that. That could happen in any ATL, too, of course, but it isnt the default development, so to say.
 
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