How can Carthage win the First Punic War?

From the little I know, it seems that Carthage didn't keep the army well supplied with men an material in Sicily for most of the war, plus their navy suffered humiliating defeats at the hands of the Romans, who didn't even have a navy at the beginning of the war. If the Romans are crushed at sea and on Sicily, would that be enough to bring them to a truce? Would it require an invasion of the Italian mainland to finally make Rome admit defeat? If Rome is losing in a big way, would any other nation or tribal grouping (Cisalpine Gaul, perhaps?) be in a position to join the fight?
 
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From the little I know, it seems that Carthage didn't keep the army well supplied with men an material in Sicily for most of the war, plus their navy suffered humiliating defeats at the hands of the Romans, who didn't even have a navy at the beginning of the war. If the Romans are crushed at sea and on Sicily, would that be enough to bring them to a truce? Would it require an invasion of the Italian mainland to finally make Rome admit defeat? If Rome is losing in a big way, would any other nation or tribal grouping (Cisalpine Gaul, perhaps?) be in a position to join the fight?
Can the Carthaginians actually win? If they win at sea, then yes, they can probably win or at least achieve some kind of truce. Furthermore, eve if Sicily is lost, if they don't have to pay an indemnity and give up their fleet, the Romans could be in real trouble the next time there's a war. Because if the Carthaginians can keep their fleet, well, they might be able to defeat Rome the next time. The problem is, the Romans defeated the Carthaginians in every single significant naval engagement save for the battle of Trepani. They also lost all the naval battles in the second Punic war, and ironically did well one land. This isn't a case of one or two good commanders or a chance development ion a battle, it's indicative that there was something the Romans were doing that the Carthaginians just could not deal with. The common wisdom seems to be that the Romans figured out that they could simply board the enemy ships with legionaries and win. It's telling that the one major defeat (Trepani) occurred when they lacked the "raven" ramps. That suggests that throwing legionaries at the enemy ships might not have have worked without it.

To beat Rome Carthage must figure out some countermeasure to this strategy. If they could ram the Romans, they would apparently sink them. It was just a matter of not getting grappled. Obviously repulsing the boarding party was a lot harder than it sounds.
 
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If I was going to come up with a secret weapon against the corvus, I'd want to take care of its one glaring weakness: It's only 4 feet wide. Since you'd have some time seeing it coming, if you could meat the boarding party with obstacles and a mass of pikes right as it arrives, you might be able to repulse the first men to come across. Send them into a shield wall, then break it up and stop them before they built up momentum and just push you over. Maybe having read-to-use obstacles to put any the end of the ramp the instant it touches your ship. OR perhaps some kind of objects to snag onto them. What about throwing weighted nets covered in metal hooks to snag the romans and break up the shield wall as they tried to cut through it, then hit em with arrows and pikes from the sides? As soon as a few bodies start to pile up, they'll be unable to get on board. Since they'd probably practice cutting through nets, maybe throw in a few uncuttable chains along with the hooks.
 
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Maybe the Carthaginians could try putting some sort of barricade up around the edges of their ships to stop the corvus from connecting properly. They'd probably be a bit awkward, but I'm sure Carthage's naval engineers could build them so that they could be kept in storage in the hold most of the time and only actually put up when battle was imminent.
 
Maybe the Carthaginians could try putting some sort of barricade up around the edges of their ships to stop the corvus from connecting properly. They'd probably be a bit awkward, but I'm sure Carthage's naval engineers could build them so that they could be kept in storage in the hold most of the time and only actually put up when battle was imminent.
I was thinking that too. The advantageous thing is, each ship only has one ramp. The Romans can use it from any angle but they can only use their bow grapple when perpendicular to the enemy ship instead of lining up in parallel like usual. That limits boarding options if the corvus doesn't work out.

Obviously it couldn't have been so simple to repulse one of these things because there's no question that the Carthaginians would have thought of these kinds of ideas.
 
I think a deeper problem is that the senatorial elites of Carthage didn't want to spend any money on the military, even refusing to contest naval dominance with the Romans after the war. Hamilcar Barca and his son Hannibal pleaded for aid in two wars and were repeatedly rebuffed. The Carthaginian senate either needs to get a fire in its collective belly or be sidelined by someone who does.
 
There must be lots of "Carthage Prevails?" threads somewhere, but I haven't seen them. From the responses I got to suggestions they could have done better in threads with different focuses--these being a long time ago when I was pretty new to the site in the early 2010s--it seemed a lot of people had the consensus idea that Carthage lacked depth that Rome had. Rome was a land power that used its expanding wealth to acquire a navy, but the Carthaginians were "just" a thalassocracy of sorts, if even that--they had really great breadth as sea traders with bases reaching up to Britain and down the northwest African coast, but apparently lacked the manpower to generally match expanded Roman capabilities. Sort of a Portugal versus Spain type situation.

Others also seemed to suggest that Roman society did a better job of engaging its elements, from common plebeians to oligarchic patricians, in the military-political business of expanding hegemony and empire--certainly around the time of Augustus and infamously the entire generation or three before, this was transitioning over, but in these classic days of Punic wars, the path of glory for an ambitious citizen of suitable rank harnessed the ambitions and fortunes of these favored and empowered competitors to public service, more or less; the implication was that Carthage by contrast was much more a straightforward oligarchy, already suffering from one of the diseases said to relate to the eventual fall of the Western Roman Empire the better part of a thousand years hence--the powerful and wealthy thought in terms of their profit and benefit and not in terms of the sort of glory and honor the Republican Romans emphasized; the wider masses, even those clearly elevated above servile rank, were not as engaged in the machinery and also apt to be looking to commercial and social status, not public service. Now I don't know how much weight to attach to these judgements, or if the naysayers about Carthage were even actually meaning to say something like this, but that is the impression they gave me.

(While I was sidetracked from finishing this post, @cincpac overboard seems to have given an example of this general theory of inherent Punic doom in post 6--not that they said Carthage could not pull itself together, but that to do so would require some kind of drastic change in the nature of its society).

Thus, I suppose for Carthage to prevail over Rome, one of several things must happen:

0)--Carthage outlives Rome but some third power more or less takes Rome's place, or divides the potential power controlling the Western Med region could give a single hegemon in squabbling perhaps; Carthage is not really stronger than OTL but lasts until someone other than Rome slaps them down;
1) --Carthage prevails by luck or being a bit more proactive in breaking Roman power earlier, being more foresightful about the potential threat of Rome perhaps, and then having been taught a sobering lesson by a near run thing, perhaps reforms itself somehow to provide better what they allegedly lacked. Perhaps this is a matter of becoming a clever patron of many auxiliary allies that they manage to provide the manpower to go with their ubiquitous presence on the seas, or some deep reform raising up people who regard themselves as Carthaginian, say on spreading territory in North Africa analogous to Roman expansion over Italy, who also provide the necessary and capable manpower;
2) Carthage provides herself with peer allies, say having fostered a strong Iberian kingdom of some kind that views itself as symbiotic with Carthage, or a long standing alliance with Massalia or some other set of Greek city states, in Magna Graecia probably;
3) Carthage deviated from OTL long before the Romans started to cross swords with them, again supplying themselves via ATL alternate choices with what it was Rome had they supposedly lacked, so that this combined with their OTL sea power meant they were a century or three ahead of the Romans and managed to gradually defeat and tame the Latins, or of course effectively eradicate them.

1 and 3 seem to be the classic lazy AH trope of Carthage instead of Rome, and 3 seems to be asking that Carthage not be Carthage but be Carthage-Su-every advantage Carthage had OTL plus a good share of Roman advantages, which is probably too much to ask.

I'd explore the weirder variations on 1 and 2; the Carthaginians building an empire on a patchwork basis of nominally sovereign, autonomous small power allies in an eclectic quilt knit together by sea trade and some sort of more or less central council for a league that manages to avoid any of its component parts spinning off to wreck the structure with narrower ambitions. Or finding an ally and in effect negotiating the same sort of soft power hegemony but with fewer stronger players.

There was a TL going some years back about Massalia that might give a hook for a Carthaginian alliance with that ATL power crushing Rome and coming up perhaps with a federation, though I think the author there was going to have Massalia emerge triumphant in Rome's place, more or less, much as my Option 0 perhaps via a temporary option 2.
 
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